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Hi Thomas, but the last one is a swedish decoration and not a russian one=) By the way... ...a nice picture. Best wishes Karsten

Hello Andreas, are you sure with Sanleben or Sauleben. I would say it´s definitely Premierlieutenant Franz Kielmeyer He was member of the 120th württemb. Inf. Regt Nr. 120 till April 1893 and served from 5th April 1893 till 1st February 1898 (Killed in action) in German Eastafrica He received the KO4x and WF3aX Very nice Photo Best wishes Karsten

and the last one. Not so famous but also not unknown. August Wilhelm Heye Hope to see another nice signed photos Best wishes Karsten

second one Alfred Graf von Waldersee (8th April 1897)

Hello Chris, interesting card. Thanks for posting it. I have only 3 signed photos of historically interesting personalities. First one Hermann von Wissmann I think everyone should know him

Thanks Chris

Thank you Rogi.

Thanks a lot

Wow thanks a lot Paul. It´s nice to hear that this is definitely the ribbon bar of Hptm. d.L. Pogge. Thanks a lot for verifying it Best wishes Karsten

Hello, after the thread of Claudio about Lt. Heinrich Wolfgang von Abendroth who was KIA in GSWA, I like to post another photo which shows Hptm. Ludwig Pichler who was also KIA in GSWA. Hauptmann Ludwig Pichler was a württembergian native and served in the württembergian army (till 1905). From April 1905 Hptm. Pichler was member of the kaiserliche Schutztruppe in German Southwestafrica. So Hptm. Pichler arrived GSWA with the troop ship Lulu Bohlen (strength of the crew: 30 officers, 342 NCO´s and men and 435 horses). The departure from Hamburg was 20th april 1905 and the arrival in Swakopmund was 15th May 1905. From mid-may Hptm. Pichler was member of the I.(Fuhrpark-)Kolonnen-Abteilung under the command of Major Nordsieck. For his first operation (under the command of Major Gräser) against the Hottentotten (under the command of Cornelius) Hptm. Pichler was transferred to the 1. Etappenkompanie as a company commander. With his first command he took part on the battles of Fischfluß. In his first and last operation Hptm. Pichler was killed in action in the battle of Keidorus (26th till 28th June 1905). The casualties on this day were very high. Unteroffizier Freistein (who took part on the battle of Keidorus) told that Hptm. Pichler was the first man who was killed in action in the battle of Keidorus. Official sources confirmed that Hptm. Pichler was the first dead soldier. In that battle the Schutztruppe had the following casualties: dead: 1. Hauptmann Ludwig Pichler (commander of the 1st Etappenkompanie) (prior-württ. 3. Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 49) Headshot 2. Assistenzarzt Dr. Karl Horn (1st Etappenkompanie) (prior-Fußartillerie-Regiment von Linger (Ostpreußischen) Nr. 1) Headshot 3. Vizefeldwebel Ernst Sonntag (9th company 2nd Feld-Regiment) (prior-sächs. 7. Königs-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 106) Headshot 4. Sergeant Andreas Huhnstock (9th company 2nd Feld-Regiment) (prior-Infanterie-Regiment Fürst Leopold von Anhalt-Dessau (1. Magdeburg.) Nr. 26) Headshot 5. Reiter Paul Schmidt (1st Etappenkompanie) (prior- Kürassier-Regiment Kaiser Nikolaus I. von Rußland (Brandenburg.) Nr. 6) Headshot. wounded: 1. Oberleutnant Wilhelm Ritter und Edler von Rosenthal, (9th company 2nd Feld-Regiment) (prior-2.Westfälischen Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 22) meat shot right lower leg. 2. Sergeant Albert Birkholz (9th company 2nd Feld-Regiment) (prior- Pommerschen Jäger-Bataillon Nr. 2) Shot right forearm 3. Gefreiter Jakob Väth (1st Etappenkompanie) (prior- Bezirkskommando Aschaffenburg) grazing shot left big toe 4. Reiter Adam Grzegorski (9th company 2nd Feld-Regiment) (prior- 5. Lothring. Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 144) Headshot 5. Reiter Friedrich Webel (11th company 2nd Feld-Regiment) (prior- könig. sächs. 2. Ulanen-Regiment Nr. 18) meat shot right foot 6. Reiter Heinrich Kister (9th company 2nd Feld-Regiment) (prior- 2. Großherzog. hessischen Dragoner-Regiment (Leib-Dragoner-Regiment) Nr. 24) grazing shot right hand 7. Reiter Alexander Hajduczek (Feldsignalabteilung) (prior- Infanterie Regiment von Winterfeldt (2. Oberschlesischen) Nr. 23) Shot right palm 8. Reiter Paul Henke (1st Etappenkompanie) (prior- 2. hannoverschen Dragoner-Regiment nr. 16) Bone shot left thigh, grazing shot back, thigh, temple, meat shot right thigh 9. Reiter Adolf Nicklas (1st Etappenkompanie) (prior- Füsilier-Regiment von Steinmetz (Westpreuß.) Nr. 37) shot right buttocks 10. Reiter Ewald Göpfert (11th company 2nd Feld-Regiment) (prior- Infanterie-Regiment Graf Dönhoff (7. Ostpreuß.) Nr. 44) meat shot left thigh and right lower leg 11. Reiter Karl Meier (9th company 2nd Feld-Regiment) (prior- 5. Westfälischen Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 53) grazing shot left lower leg In total 2 officers and 3 soldiers dead and 1 officer and 10 soldiers wounded The casualties of the Hottentotten are unknown. Sources: -Schwabe, Kurt (1907), Der Krieg in Deutsch-Südwestafrika 1904-1906, Weller: Berlin. -Freiherr von Dincklage-Campe, Friedrich (1908), Deutsche Reiter in Südwest, Deutsches Verlagshaus Bong & Co: Berlin, Leipzig, Wien, Stuttgart. -Kriegsgeschichtliche Abteilung I des Großen Generalstabes (1907), Die Kämpfe der deutschen Truppen in Südwestafrika (Band 2), Mittler und Sohn: Berlin. - Deutsches Kolonialblatt (1905) - Rangliste der könig. preuß. Armee und des XIII. (könig. württem.) Armeekorps 1905 -o.A.(1907), 1904-1907 Lebensdaten der auf dem Ehrenfelde D.-Südwestafrika gebliebenen Offiziere, Kunstverlag: Trier

I own that picture for some years now. It shows Forstmeister and Hauptmann der Landwehr Pogge. With help of Glenn J. I received the following infos: Karl Pogge, born 17 April 1873 at Schweckwitz in Pomerania. Served with the RFJK from 10 Nov 1896 to 19 Aug 1909. Forstmeister in Neubrück a.d. Spree. So Pogge was one of the four Feldjäger who were deployed to China. In my opinion it is also interesting that Pogge received Decorations from Russia and Italy for his participation on the Boxer-War in China (1900/1901) but no german awards like (for example) the prussian Crown Order 4th class with swords. Never seen a combination like that but the Rangliste of 1904 proves the opposite: Lt. Wallmann: RSt3x Lt. Graf v. Wintzingerode: JK 5 and RSt3x During Oblt. von dem Borne received the following awards for his participation in China: KO4x, RSt3x, RA3 So it was usually that members of the "Reitendes Feldjägerkorps" received foreign awards (russians and italians awards) but no german awards (like prussian, bavarian, saxon and so on). Back to Hptm. dL Pogge. Last Christmas I received the post ribbon bar. Thanks a lot to my collector friend The ribbon match in all points with the medal bar of Hptm. d.L. Pogge. Only the miniatur battle clasp "Houlu" is missing. So is it for real the ribbon bar of Hptm. d.L. Pogge? It would be nice if someone could verify it. Thanks a lot Best wishes Karsten

Wow a wonderful group. I like a lot those complete groups, congratulation and thanks for sharing it. But I have also a little surprise for you The commander of Koepke who signed the South-West Afrika Campaign medal doc, received also the South-West Afrika Campaign medal Best wishes Karsten

Thanks a lot that would be helpful. Here is the SDA-Link with your bar: http://h1797427.stratoserver.net/public_html/wbb3/board3-3/board9-deutsche-auszeichnungsgruppen-und-ordensschnallen-bis-1918/58429-hilfe-mit-restaurieren/ Best wishes Karsten

The difference between Sachsen-Meiningen and Sachsen-Altenburg are the following: Sachsen-Altenburg had no lettering (for example Afrika) and note also the swords handles! Those swords of Sachsen-Altenburg look more like sabers... ...or rather the swords handles are curved and those curved swords handles are outside of the clasp plate. Perhaps VtwinVince can post his nice Sachsen-Altenburger-colonial-medal-bar for demonstrating the last point. Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha had only swords on the ribbon. For example Sergeant Spittel: So the discussed "Ernestiner" on the nice colonial medal bar in this thread is definetly an award from Sachsen-Meiningen Best wishes Karsten

Feldwebel Handke and my last contribution is that medalbar of a high-decorated Cameroon-NCO. He´s wearing all three types of the Long Service Award. Best wishes Karsten

Also nice and interesting is the medalbar of that unknown Feldwebelleutnant.

Vzfw. Bruckner Another one who mixed his awards (MEZ 2 and South West Africa Medal). Another one who was so excited because of his marriage

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Hello, I have the following infos (DKB 1905): Am 24. Februar aus dem Heer ausgeschieden und mit dem 25. Februar 1905 in der Schutztruppe angestellt: nach erfolgtem Ausscheiden aus der Königlich Sächsischen Armee: die Königlich Sächsischen Leutnants: v. Abendroth im 1. (Leib) Grenadier Regiment Nr. 100, als Leutnant, [...] mit Patent vom 23. August 1902; and the battle report of vAbendroth last battle (Deutsche Reiter in Südwest). Best wishes Karsten

Hello, I hoped that one of these guys: Stiegel, Maquinista da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Grieb, Comissário da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha would be the owner of the mentionend medal bar but nobody of them served in Togo between 1890 and 1894. So no match By the way Stiegel was "Marine-Ingenieur". In 1902 (Marine-Stabsingenieur (Patent: 10th April 1899) he had: RAO4, KO4, PBd´A3 and RSt3 And now? May be an ROA4 instead an AEZ? In that case I researched for those mentioned officers and had the following results: These officers had another combinations of awards: Johannes Hann, Tenente da Marinha de guerra Imperial Alemã Konrad Wilhelm Gustav Herman, Graf Finck von Finckenstein, Capitão do 1º Regimento de Infantaria da Guarda Imperial do Exército Imperial Alemão CavaleiroAdolf von Drebber, Tenente de Artilharia do Exército Imperial Alemão Scheunemann, 1º Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Reinhold Fischer, 1º Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Stilzel, 1º Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Bunnemam, 1º Tenente da Marinha de guerra da AlemanhaRitter von Waechter, 2º Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Ritter von Waechter, 2º Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Von Bodecker, 2º Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Dr. Wentel, Médico da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Pindter, Capitão-Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Wachsmann, Almoxarife Mor da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Graf von Posadowsky, Tenente de 1ª classe da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Mersmann, 1º Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Von Hass, Tenente da Marinha de guerra Alemã Bossart, Capitão-Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Friedrich Franz Max Ahlers, Capitão do Regimento de Fuzileiros da Guarda Alemã Von Funcke, Capitão do 2º Regimento de Infantaria da Guarda do Exército Alemão Konrad Wagler, Capitão de Infantaria do Exército Alemão H. Köhler, Tenente do Exército Alemão Von Brause, 1º Tenente do 20º Regimento de Infantaria de linha Graf Tauentzein von Wittenberg, do Exército da Prússia Officers who had RAO4 and PBd´A3 but were not in Togo (so no colonial medal with clasp Togo 1894/95) or couldn´t find the person in the "Rangliste"/ "Marine-Rangliste", "bay. Militärhandbuch 1911" and also not in the "DKB" between 1890 and 1894 (so no participants of the expedition in Togo in 1894/95): Graf von Schönborn-Wiesentheid, Capitão, Ajudante-de-campo do Chanceler Alemão Wilhelm Eugen Joseph Kalm, Capitão do Exército Alemão Richard Hofricter, Capitão do Exército Alemão Joseph Karl Emmanuel Alexander Münstermann, Capitão do Exército Alemão Heinrich Rudolph von Cuckvort, Capitão do Exército Alemão Sterne Walter von Mombary, Capitão do Exército Alemão Otto von Pluskow, Capitão do Exército Alemão Carl von Bodien, Capitão do Exército Alemão Freiherr von Ledebur, 2º Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Robertson, 2º Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Fritz Schmidt, 2º Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Ernst Hoffmam, 2º Tenente da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Dr. Schacht, Médico da Marinha de guerra da Alemanha Von Weise, Capitão do Exército Alemão, Adido Militar da Alemanha em Lisboa Philippe Lougard, Capitão de Infantaria de Reserva do Exército Alemão, Autoridade Superior Administrativa de Sigmaringen Bronsort Schellendarff, Capitão do Exército alemão e A­dido militar de Sua Majestade o Imperador da Alemanha. Von Penskoro, Capitão de Infantaria do Exército Alemão Graf La Rosée, Oficial do Exército da Baviera (Bayern) Still no match Is the portuguese order of Aviz replaced??? More questions and no solution We have to know who were the participants of the expedition in Togo in 1894/95. Maybe anyone else has more infos? Best wishes Karsten

In my opion the portugese order would be the key! I think there should be only a few possibilities who got that portugese order. With those few names we could check up who got also the colonial medal of those candidates. Finally we´ll check up if someone of them also received the prussian AEZ (Ordensliste). Did someone have a list of the portugese order? Best wishes Karsten P.S: Congrats to that nice and interesting bar

Do that photo also shows a member of the military railway? He wears the insignia of the railway but I don´t know if he´s a military. Unfortunately nothing on the backside. Best wishes Karsten

Here is another nice photo-example of a RAO4x in wearing. Hope you like it. Unfortunately no doc and "hardware", by now =) Best wishes Karsten

Wow thanks for posting that nice photo. Here is another photo of Oblt. Benzien. My photo should be taken after his return from China. Best wishes Karsten

Hello Chris, as I understand the content of the Bernd´s article correctly, I would say that only three germans received the African General Service Medal. There were no awards for German-Eastafrica or other german colonies. I don´t know if there were awarded any other british campaign medals to germans... ....but I don´t think so (except China 1900/1901!). Oblt. von Stephani was the only german officer who received that british award. Best wishes Karsten