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Really!!!???? :speechless1:

I did not imply there was a problem. I asked a question for edification. Was it normal for a mid level A-H medical officer to get an MMM? Was there a hierarchy of supporting role awards: MMM first and then MC and then SL or what? I do not know. thanks

Hmmmmm.... a jr. officer who got an HHOx and and BVOx4 and had 25+ years in service, but no Bavarian Jubilee medals and nothing else from any other states......and later was in the Luftwaffe (probably by 1940). Maybe he's in the Reichswehr ranklists as he must have served at least a goodly portion of the 1920s in uniform to get the LS medal. I doubt he's a Kreigsmarine transfer. Let's see.....

Nice! Can you zoom in on the map behind with the pins in it? Is that the Verdun battle going on in the south central part of France?

Great photo! #1 really is history in action.

Wow, talk about a prime artillery target area! This looks like its from an album, is it? Have you tried the Great War Forum? I bet a couple of the chaps there will now to the GPS foot!

Would an MMM have been awarded to a @ Hauptman-level medical officer?

Very cool indeed. Somewhere amidst the rabbit chewed detritus I have a picture of the U-9 with that on the tower in harbor. I'll go search for it.

:speechless1: Once again Gordon finds a gobsmacker- Given my almost complete ignorance of this subject area (I have read a few secondary books) I would guess that either: (a) the man was an "ethnic Indian" (Aryan: in NAZI parlance) who had German citizenship and served in the Kreigsmarine after possibly a merchant seaman's' career.....or/and.... (b) a German W/O (Sonderfuhrer) or officer who was attached to the FreiesIndien unit as a liaison/interpreter for some length of time.....possibly part of the navy staff at Toulon? Just a guess. I can not wait to see the answer (and see an article on this piece, perhaps Gordon and Ed could collaborate in such scholarship?). :cheers:

Ah I see. Mine is perhaps not a"fake" then, (although i suspect it is), but a reprint from a unit photograph (er). I know that specific photos were taken and passed along to others within a unit or in the US army case, by the Signal corps and also unit photographers. A few years ago I had Thanksgiving dinner with a very old veteran who'd been a photographers' mate in the US Navy in 1942-46. He made duplicates of official photos as well as took many originals and passed them along to other guys for souvenirs. He traded shots of the Surrender for a three day pass. I can only suppose the same thing happened in 1914-18.

very cool! Thanks Gordon.

Ahhhh-this whole thread brings back happy memories, mostly of my In-Laws' house at Christmas and debates about Presbyterian church politics. There are a number of Irish medal collectors here who really, (Really!) know their stuff. I would very much welcome information regarding the following; 1. The "Belfast fakes" currently being made and/or sold (size, weight,color, who is making them etc.) and 2. The typology of the "Tan war" medals. Ta-

Hi Paul: The photo is mine-one I got from eBay as a series from 'ba-re" a German photo seller. He has sold duplicates/fakes in the past and I can no longer bid on his auctions because i gave him negative feedback because of it. He obviously copied the original souvenir photo, clipped the writing at the bottom and 'aged" it. The feedback I gave him was based upon a freikorps photo of which I own the original (the German writing on the back is impossible to counterfeit by his level of faker), but he has sold a fuzzier version of the same image on eBay three times now that i know of. I got a duplicate for free once from Bill Dienna. I suspect my portrait of Lt. Dleius, of famous COx 1914 fame, is also a duplicate.

Indeed, I own the same picture-obtained from thee Stogiemon! Hmmm.......

Awarded to cultural educational personalities too- http://www.classicalmusicnow.com/ruiz.htm If Ed was only Cuban........ :rolleyes:

I would buy it and research it. It is very unusual for a WW1 NCO to get more than 3 state ribbons (inc. the EK2), but it did happen and some state combination s are almost unheard of (like a Bav. MVK with anything else besides an EK2 and one of the Hansa ribbons).

These coarse ribbons are recently made- @ 10 years or so. Many come from Pakistan and India (I presume, by some medals I have). I have myself ordered a roll of such ribbon from the manufacturer of BWM ribbon in Karachi lat year. It cost $200 for 100 yards (that's a lot of ribbon: 600 medals worth). I found the manufacturer via google. If I can do it, anyone can.

Outstanding thread-and link! :jumping:

Treat, restore and save. It's better to have 90% of a gas mask than a bit of junk IMHO.

how much did it go for?

Fascinating!! Thanks for showing this to us. A Coburg 'Prince Alfons" badge -sort of... A MOST interesting first paragraph of the letter too! Have you read "The Royals and the Reich" at all?

Odd things happen. SA badges have come up from U Boat wrecks off the east coast of the USA.

I would too- but, oh well.