Ulsterman

yup- However, over the past three years we have seen a number of instances where Doctors were given initially the combat medal and then about a year later, the non combat one. I can think of three off the top of my head including a remounted threesome that was the subject of an OMSA article to a MD. who was owed a US civil war campaign medal as well!

Beautiful!! My cousin and I were at a show one time ten years back and I saw one with an EK2 and DRKm for $45. I didn't buy it as I thought it was some sort of 1870s commemorative. No knowledge=loss. Foolish, foolish ignorant me. It's the beautiful one that got away. Superb piece. Congrats!

Well, for something like this I'd never buy off eBay-too many well made fakes/copies/reproductions. Many other collectors feel the same way. No offense, but this is a piece that needs to be handled and inspected before purchase for many cautious collectors. By the way, whence did it come?

No- Germany was an imperial state, that is made up of distinct but unified political entities. States awards were recognized as official awards and not required to be turned in upon receiving a WB. I think only two "entities" gave out "wound medals" (inc. Austria) that were legitimate under the TR. One bullet through the kneecap or a thumb would have sent him home to Ersatz/depot service and he'd have still only had a black wound badge. Now what would have made this REALLY interesting is a war hilfskreuz and a red cross medal.... Still, I'd love to own this bar, it's wonderful.

Or rather, wore it in WW1 and didn't live until 1919?

well, I would and be happy into the bargain, Bavarian MVOxs and officers LS medals ain't easy things to come by and will come in useful someday.

If he applied, he would have received a wound badge probably in the 1935 "catch up" awards. WW1 wound badges were awarded starting in June 1918 through early 1919 and at the company/Battalion level from what I can glean. In 1918 the color of the badge denoted the number of wounds. Later on in the Tr, the colour demonstarted severity of wound(s). I believe we had an actual wound badge card on here some time last year showing "number of wounds" and color of badge on the paper. A chap who'd already been at home with a disabling wound probably missed the first "imperial awards. Great bar.

Fantastic group. Those ribbon bars are wonderful! Great stuff!

Oh I agree, there are all sorts of odd things about the book and word on the street is that Reimer was a little too dependent upon some dealers and others for information. of course he admits this, but this is the only book on the subject and one must be very careful of some of the higher end badges and royal war time badges which have been redone. I thought yours in the "type 1" with the crown. The gum ball machine ones are type two and very clearly the castle has a less "regal" appearance-more of a blob.

Very unusual, but I'd wager it's from @1865 when they put up some of the monuments. No idea what they're worth but i reckon on eBay somebody would have to have it as a unique piece for more money than I'd pay. By the way, the Brunswick ones go for @ $250-$350 these days, although with a broken suspension I reckon $100-$150.

When was the effective date of the regulations? Usually there is a 90 day promulgation to effect timeframe.

A 7 year old did these? They are excellent! I was fingerpainting at 7.

Indeed! So, how many of us are bidding on it?

The FINEST noncom bar I have ever seen-note the red cross crown order. I thought there was a list of those too. I believe that is the first issue "combat ribbon" on the 1870 campaign medal too. By the bars we can narrow down the units as well.

I believe October, 1935.

Very interesting thread. You may also wish to start this thread over at the OMSA forum, as the DoD awards guy (a friend of Jeffs?) apparently signs on quite often is is a font of friendly information and knowledge. Also, it gets read by journalists on occasion and nothing expedites a medal faster than publicity.

According to Reimers' book (which he admits is not accurate so do not panic), these came in the two classes and in two types. The castle/crown came into use in the mid 1970s. Before then the top was a rectangular type castle with a red star in the middle of it. Reimers' book shows the document of a Communist party member and long serving city clerk who got the 2nd class #992 on December 29, 1971.

there is one in the Fitzwilliam? where? Leigh?

OMG! That is a wonderful collection-do you have documents too? heart fluttering...... I have to go rest now.

Appraisal: $350 tops-the sum of the parts, assuming original parts. Look at the story here (I can't wait for Ricks' comments): ...some sort of WW1 jr. Austrian enlisted front fighter, who gets an 18 LS medal by 1940 (!-and HOW exactly does that happen?), serves in Spain, (1937-38) and ends up on the West Wall (39-40), then is off to Russia where he's with Army Group South in a Luftwaffe unit. The bar would have to date from late 1942-early 1945 a mere 30 month period of time. Maybe slightly possible for a Luftwaffe Nachtrichten/rear- echelon type guy, but really,really, really, really doubtful. Oh and the Ostmedal goes before the Austrian front service stuff too, it was a decoration. Also, these monster bars are made in Austria and have been for the past 15-20 years. I don't like the look of the EK. It has all the classic signs of a manufactured fake: big, made up of common medals, lots of foreign awards at the end, tighter, flatter stitching....oh and missing a LS eagle, apparently never there in the first place. In my opinion, as someone who has collected and looked tens of thousands of photos of these trinkets being worn, ANY Third Reich medal bar (not imperial) that has more than six medals on it is immediately suspect. Large TR bars are rarer than hens teeth and SOLDIERS in 1943-45 weren't wearing them very often in the course of their every day lives. Con men know that a classic come-on is to make the mark very attractive ("triple your money in 90 days and NO risk"). This has just enough tidbits to be a good con and it is one. Anyway, I know I am ranting in front of the converted, so to speak.. so sorry. For comparison:

brilliant stuff!! Please write an article on this! The Military Advisor would LOVE this- "A life in artifacts".

yee Gods!! For that kind of dosh it would be almost worth breaking into 44 Parnell Square and nicking the two they have off the walls!! Only kidding, theft is a crime of course.

There was an excellent article a few years ago on the soldiers medal in the JOMSA I think.

Nice!! and still affordable.

wilkommen! Ich mochte dass ich ein Freund wie dir hat'! Very rare and quite valuable.