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If it is an Oldenburg long service cross or medal, probably the later, which after more thought, it most likely is, it’s a gendarmerie medal bar. In all likelihood the first award is the FAK. Here’s a couple of examples:

Just saw this up on eBay and wanted to see what your thoughts on it where on it:

Very nice bar! I would say that no.2 would be a non combatants Friedrich August Kreuz, especially when you consider the KVK right next to it. Congratulations on such a great find!

Would you happen to be able to provide the weight of the cross?

A Bavarian order of St Hubert with diamonds! This guy really has the holies of all holies!

Wonderfully fully enameled so as to “prevent soiling” of the uniform

I’d say it’s the Austrian military merit order commanders cross

Hello, What a great gift! The second ribbon on the first ribbon bar is the Herzogtum Sachsen-Meiningen Medaille fur verdienst im krieg 1915 The second “iron cross” ribbon on the second bar is the Preussen Militar-Ehrenzeichen 2. Klasse\ I hope this was helpful

Quite. It’s really very unfortunate too, and forgers have gotten quite good at it too. I regret to say that even the one that I had shared on this thread turns out to be a forgery as well, even though it was identical to an example sold by Künker! Even when you compare examples that have sold at auction, even some of the ones that are sold there are admittedly sold as forgeries. Its such a terrible mine field after the one I’ve purchased I’ve stayed away from all of these Ehrenkreuzes

Hello, In my honest on my opinion, I would say at best this is a spangestucke. The swords aren’t the right style but this doesn’t always necessarily mean that it’s fake. In this case however, I’d have to lean towards them being inauthentic. Also, the arms of the cross are “speckled” like that of the RAO and not smooth, but once again this could be explained as being a wearers copy. For me, the biggest concern is just how large the swords are for the cross. best regards, Dan

Hi Dom, The unknown manufacturer is “Ochs & Bonn” - Hanau

As beneficial as standing desks may be, I don’t think it’ll be helpful in this case… I do have to note the lack of an EK2 on the bar despite being awarded the BMVO4X. In all fairness to Vince, an argument could be made for both sides as to whether or not it is the FEK or the 1870 Denkmünze. It should be remembered that the denkmünze in steel was awarded to those whose severed a minimum of two weeks in the army at home or didn’t see front line service. My apologies for not giving to much to add in this discussion and search

It’s clearly a Prussian soldier, he’s either a Musketeer in parade uniform or a Leutnant but I doubt that. but if you could show the location where the photograph was taken at the bottom, usually that can help narrow down what regiment he belonged to.

I think it’s for a Leutnant in the Oldenburg Gendarmerie

Lukaz, I saw that, and I knew that that was right and I had it in the back of my mind. the combination of the similar ribbon near by the that medal threw me off. Best regards, Dan

#2 Does not have a crown #7 is the 1866 campaign cross #10 is the Fürstlich Schaumburg-Lippe Militärverdienstmedaille #11 is the Herzoglich Anhalt Goldene Erinnerungsmedaille zum 25. Regierungsjubiläum #12 is the Queen Victoria Golden or Diamond Jubilee medal #13 is the K.u.K. 1898 "Signvm Memoriae" medal #14 is the K.u.K. 1908 jubilee medal for foreigners #15 is the K.u.K. 1848-1908 jubilee cross #16 is the 1896 Imperial Russian Coronation medal of Tsar Nicholas II What would be quite interesting is to try and figure out what his post-war medal bar consisted of! best regards, Dan

Here’s my little contribution from IR91 taken right after the end of the war:

Marcus, And what a special connection that is! I wish you the best of luck in order to be able to find such a ribbon! Speaking of IR 91 commemorative medals, here’s another award I think I should share: best regards, Dan

Marcus, I appreciate the compliment! I am happy I could help in any way I could, especially when it comes to Oldenburg! Here’s the link to one of the only ones that I know of that is for sale currently. like I said, it is quite expensive. I paid quite a large sum of money for mine as well due to the length of ribbon present. Best regards, Dan

Marcus, If my memory serves me right, the Kamerader bund is a later award, closer to the 1970s, but I could be wrong. they are both post 1957 awards, after about 1934 when Hitler came to power, all of these “unofficial awards” stopped being awarded. Yes, these awards are most definitely still awarded today. I know where some Weimar era versions of the cross are for sale, but unless you are able to find one at an auction or buy one for a cheap price on fleabay, they’re selling them for quite an expensive price. Here’s a couple of things that may be of interest to you if you appreciate Oldenburg veteran awards like myself: Here is an example of the original Oldenburg veterans crosses and membership badges, all from my own collection: Version for flags: Membership badges: best regards, Dan

I hate to one to correct but, although yes this award was first awarded in the Weimar Republic by the Oldenburg War veterans association, this is the post WWII version of the award. Here are some examples of the Weimar era version of the award. The first example is from my own collection, the others are examples that were sold at auction: here are some post war examples that the first example coming from my own collection and the second one from an individual on the Feldgrau forum: Best regards, Dan

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This is being sold by Phillip-Militaria, yes it is good.

I know this is an old thread, but I am wondering if it is possible to try and identify some of the other officers in @Deruelle’s photo. From left to right: Unknown General who was obviously attended the 1913 centennial of IR 91. IR 91 Leutnant d. Res. Neumüller two unknown officers von Hindenburg. Best regards

Here’s a couple of photos of Hptm. von set Hellen and others with both the 1921 memorial medal and the 1913 medal: