Paul R

The set is beyond stunning!! It never ceases to amaze me, the things that are out there.

Thanks for sharing them!! I think that the dark brown nebenfarbe was also used by Air Safety Officials.

Can you ID the ribbons on the uniform? It is also the first photo of a Weimar Aviation specialist too!

It is a first for me!! Where did you find this?

I like it a lot. If I were you, I would frame it to keep it flat and provide a bit of protection.

Were these ever numbered?

Yes, I love the cloth badges as well! Congratulations on acquiring such an awesome grouping!

Hi Kev, The link you provided does not work... Is there another? I got the "The page cannot be found" page when I clicked on the link. Paul

I am a novice compared to many, but I am not liking the wreath or the reverse.

absolutely breath taking!

Hey Marc, Wasn't said earlier that there were orders for people that were not presented because there whereabouts were unknown? Paul

I would like to know the number of HSU, OL, and others in storage there. I am taking it that the later style OLs were for people that could not be found. What are the odds... That would really stink.

I am surprised to see the Chilean medal ranked higher than the HKmS!

This is a great thread!! Do you have any other items belonging to your grand parents? Did you ever get to meet them?

Harvy, Very interesting read, on all accounts. I,for one, thought that Bautruppen were the same as pioneers. Why could color photography not been invented and perfected 7 years earlier....

SWEET!!! "... of a few known"? You know of others?

I did not know that this organization existed. Do you have any background information on it? How many members?

Hey Rick. You are right. The tabs had nothing to do with rank. They had to do with the career grade level the man was in. However, there was a certain range of paygrades in each level. There were a total of four career grade levels. The level was determined by the amount of education/experience the man had. Lower Career Level- Feldwebel/Oberfeldwebel- Grade school education without further education/qualification was required. Medium Career Level- Oberfeldwebel/Oberleutnant- High School Diploma and an apprenticeship of a trade was required. Elevated Career Level- Leutnant/Oberstleutant- Educational level between High School and College, with an addition two-three years of practical training required. Highest Grade Career- Leutnant/Generalleutnant- University degree is required. The serrated litzen were indicative of the "High Grade Career" level. For this level, the position or specialty required a full college degree.

Yeah... mine too. Bob, can you please post another photo with sunlight so that we can see the blue?

So these ROTC awards actually come from the Army? How does the award criteria compare to that of the Regular Army?

Because there is a dark blue piping on the top edge of the black band.

[There would most certainly be interest!! Can you make the ones you posted a bit bigger, so that we can see more details?

Those are great additions!! Thank you Sandro! I would love to see an original uniform of that type!

Where are you finding these? Most desirable!!

Most beautiful visor!! It matches the stamps on my Tuchrock, earlier in this thread!! Congrats!