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Schießplatzmeister

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  1. Hello Thierry: This Wikipedia article has the information from "Virtuti Pro Patria". http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_von_Zottmann Is there more specific information that you are looking for? Best regards
  2. Hello Chris: Thank you for posting these photos. This is a mystery indeed! The PLM on the right is a well-known type of copy of relatively modern manufacture. The piece on the left is possibly a Godet made piece that was modified. I would like to hear more about the story behind this. When did Jacobs give these items to Dr. Parks? Is is possible to also get a photo of the other medals that are with the Jacobs items? Since Jacobs died in 1978 in is entirely possible that he gave these items to Dr. Parks. The piece on the right may have been a piece that Jacobs owned and used for actual wearing, or a piece that he purchased to give as a gift. Very interesting. Best regards
  3. Hello Detlef: This piece is not made of gold and is not an officially awarded piece. At best, it is a period copy made for everyday wear on the large medal bar. There were genuine gold pieces, but they were awarded very early in the history of the award. They are extremely rare. Best regards
  4. Hello again: I used to know the collector who submitted this item to FJP for auction many years ago and will not name him as I did not obtain his permission to do so. At the time, forums such as this were not available to gain knowledge about items. One was only able to meet other collectors at shows. I do know that this collector did not ever have any concerns regarding the piece based upon his collecting experience. I defend FJP 100% (not that they need my endorsement) as they would never knowingly sell something that is questionable. Jeff Floyd is an upstanding man that I have full faith in. He is the reason that I started collecting such items. An auctioneer or dealer cannot be a specialist in everything that they encounter. After 23 years of collecting, I am still learning something new every day. The particular collector.who sold the group through FJP Auctions obtained the group from Gordon Arnold many years prior. As previously stated, the piece was featured in an Ernst Blass advertisement in the 1970's. Knowing now what we know about the activities of Mr. Blass, and the fact that he is now deceased, allows me to comment on the belief that he was probably involved in the manufacture and/or sale of items that were forgeries meant to deceive collectors. I have no direct knowledge of this however. It is sort of like knowing that Stalin wasn't a nice guy (I haven't experienced it firsthand, but I believe it to be so). The provenance of pieces is essential to the modern collector and in this particular case, we have a provenance back to the 1970's, but the trail grows cold there. Best regards
  5. Hello: I have personally inspected this item and I concur 100% with the comments made by the very experienced collector/dealer who made the comments regarding the HHO3 and determined that it is a post-1930 piece. Best regards
  6. Hello Phillipe: I have seen many WWI German photos with numbers. I believe that they usually indicated the photographer's catalogue number. A soldier/officer could then order a print based upon the number indicated. I have not seen photos before with the "O" or "S", but perhaps this was part of a similar cataloguing system and nothing more. Best regards
  7. Hello Daniel: The HHO is NOT gold. It is gilded-silver if I remember correctly. The SEHO piece is gilded silver. There are no gold awards on this bar which does not make sense for this time period. Best regards
  8. Hello all: I know some of the history of this group prior to the year 2000 and personally inspected it many years ago. In the 1970's it was a featured sale item of Ernst Blass. The RAO III. with Crown is a horrid quality bronze-gilt "spangenstuck" if I remember correctly. All of the ribbons appear to be old however. Although impressive looking, somewhat of a mystery to all who have ever owned it. Best regards
  9. Hello everyone: This type of cross is 100% correct. These cast iron crosses (your pieces should be magnetic) with "Roman" sword crossguards were issued for the 1870-71 conflict and often appear on groups of this era. These pieces with "Roman" crossguards were defiantely not jeweler's variations. The pieces with the more ornate sword crossguards are of a later manufacture. If I recall correctly it has been speculated that none of the later types were actually awarded (it seems that they were certainly not awarded during the 1914-1918 era). Eric Ludvigsen knew what he was talking about (always). It seems also that many of these Oldenburg pieces (which are rather scarce) seem to have been discovered by Canadian units towards the end of WWII. There were a few in a collection in the UK a few years back. Due to these pieces being cast iron, you will probably not be able to find a craftsman (or craftswoman) to repair the sword grips properly. Many pieces on groups have the sword grips broken off. I would leave the piece "as is" it it were mine. Congratulations regarding the addition of this nice piece to your collection! ps: Oh yes, Wildcard, I remember the Mertens medal well!
  10. Congratulations David! A wonderful website and a very interesting topic. Good luck with the publication of a book on this subject. I believe that there will be a healthy interest in such a publication. Best regards
  11. Hello Dave: I would interpret it as being a bit strange. A pre-Hindenburg Cross group/field ribbon bar to a Bavarian recipient would usually (but not always) have the MMJO/TKM ribbon first, then the MVO/MVK ribbon, and then the EKII ribbon, etc., etc. That being said, there are three possibilities in my opinion: 1) Bavarian Officer who was a MMJO Knight recipient and MVO IV w/Swords recipient. 2) Bavarian NCO who recived the TKM and who then received a field promotion to Officer and then recived the MVO IV w/Swords (more likely statistically). 3) Bavarian NCO who received the TKM and the MVO,MVK II w/Swords (most likely statistically). I believe that someone who has the Sachsen-Meiningen roll book could sort this one out without too much difficulty. There could not have been too many Bavarians with the Sachsen-Meiningen War Merit Cross or War Merit Medal. On another note: Dave, I am glad that you are back. I really miss your Military Max Joseph Order website. Is there any chance of it ever returning? Best regards
  12. Hello Chris: Yes, cleaning this piece is not advisable as the plating is extremely thin. If you clean it, any trace of the gilding will undoubtedly disappear. Best regards
  13. Although not a "champion" by any stretch of the imagination (just ask my wife), from what evidence I have seen, there were probably very few post-1918 TKM awards. I imagine that several factors influenced this. It is probable that there were a multitude of applications right after 1918 for awards which were not made during the War. In addition to an influx of applications received "all at once", the military and government apparatus for processing such award applications was undoubtedly decimated and in a chaotic state. Also, the funds for such awards were undoubtedly no longer as easily available. It is my opinion that only in "exceptional" cases were retroactive awards made. The award document to Schwartz is the ONLY post-1918 award document that I have every seen (and I have been paying attention to these documents for awhile now). So, my vote is that the "bar" was actually raised. Best regards
  14. Hello: No, actually, I was referring to the provisional award document to Georg Schwartz dated October 24, 1919 which appears later in the book on page 149. His citation document is also shown which was dated November 20, 1925. He was awarded the silver TKM on October 24, 1919 for actions on April 21, 1918 and on June 9, 1918. This is proof that TKM awards actually did continue after the cessation of hostilities. Best regards
  15. Ple..........................se! Ple.............................se! Pretty Ple..............se! Does the EKI have a "square-shaped" punch mark on the reverse center?
  16. Hello Chris: A great group! Congratulations! I believe that the silver-gilt medal was the only medal received by the soldier. There were often severe delays in processing recommendations for awards due to a variety of factors (hospital recovery, POW, etc.) as mentioned by Paul. The action may have happened in 1915, but the award itself was probably presented in 1916 (or 1917 or 1918). If the actual award document existed, it would show when the actual award was processed for presentation. As you know, these official silver-gilt medals are much scarcer than the gold medals. It is possible that awards were made after 1918 (citation documents from the 1920's exist) just like post-war MMJO awards. Most citation documents were prepared in 1918 if I recall correctly. The 1920's citations may be official replacements however and may not indicate a late award. I believe that I may have seen an actual 1919 award document, but I will have to research this further (I believe that a photo may exist in O'Connor's book, Volume 1). It is also possible (as you mentioned) that soldiers were given the option to "trade-in" their gold medals for silver-gilt medals to help the war effort and show their patriotism. I have not seen literature regarding this, but I do know of certain non-wartime awards for which a recipient could trade in their gold medal for a newer-issue (non-gold). Best regards
  17. Hello Chris: I have two (2) theories: 1) Double exposure of film (most likely explanation). 2) Shot made through glass which had a reflection on it??? Best regards
  18. Hello Chris: Yes, I think that you are correct! After looking through ranklists, etc., the name "Dallwitz" does appear several times. The name "Dauwitz" does not. I have not found this General yet. I will keep looking a bit more. Best regards
  19. Hello Christer: It looks like General von "Dauwitz" is possibly written and maybe not "Dallwitz". Best regards
  20. Hello again: Again these are also not "researchable" as to specific recipients. Best regards
  21. Hello: If you mean by "research" that the name of the specific individuals who were awarded these awards can be found without other supporting documentation, the answer is "no". Based upon the awards present however, other types of information can be guessed (ie.:type of unit, possible rank of recipient, etc.). Best regards
  22. Hello: This is definately a Friedrichsorden with swords. It is a 2nd Class in my opinion. The third award is probably a Württemberg Landwehr DA 2. Klasse. So, your fellow is a Württemberg reserve Officer. A very nice photo! Congratulations.
  23. Hello Timo: There are two (2) available at eMedals for US$240 and US$275 currently. You may be able to find one for US$75-US$150 if you are patient and willing to wait awhile. Ebay.de would be a good place to buy one. Best regards
  24. Hello Jason: I hope that everything has dried out a bit now in your area and that all is well. The first award is a Prussian "Militär-Ehrenzeichen 1. Klasse" (Military Honor Award 1st Class). I believe that it is the proper award on this group most likely. A very rare group to a colonial soldier or marine! Thank you for sharing this item with us. Best regards
  25. Hello: Klietmann and Scharfenberg do not list any award totals in their expert works regarding the awards of Anhalt. It therefore seems that the answer is unknown. There could not have been many awards in any case. Best regards
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