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Hello Sergio: A very interesting medal group. In my opinion, the ribbon is NOT Bavarian. It is the same as the ribbon for Hessen-Darmstadt Arts and Sciences merit medals and for Hessen-Darmstadt Fire Brigade medals. It may be impossible to ever know exactly what was there originally. Perhaps our resident Hessian expert Rudi will have some ideas? Best regards,
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Hello Ulsterman: Sorry, to clarify, I meant "BMVK2x" when I wrote "MVKII with swords". But, I forgot to include the crown! So, it was really a Bavarian Military Merit Cross 2nd Class with Swords and Crown most likely. So, we are talking about the same thing. Thinking about Bavarian items all of the time, I often forget about the other States! Yes, there is the "Bayerns Goldenes Ehrenbuch" which has the citation information for the recipients listed. If there was a name to go with the field ribbon bar, then the citation information could be found there. Unfortunately, this WWI combination (Bavarian Military Merit Medal/Bravery Medal, Bavarian Military Merit Cross 2nd Class with Swords and Crown, and Prussian Iron Cross 2nd Class) was not that unique, so finding out which soldier owned this field ribbon bar would be difficult without any supporting documents/history. Best regards
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Hello Alan: Congratulations regarding this very nice field ribbon bar. The recipient was most likely a MVM/TKM recipient (gold or silver) in WWI. He was also most likely a MVK II with swords recipient. There is nothing to indicate that he was an Officer, or may have received a field grade promotion. The odds are therefore against him having been a MMJO (MJ3) recipient. Best regards
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Hello Westfale: I don't know what the regulations stated during this time, but this was a common practice. What is interesting here is that our brave Bavarian soldier has a TKM/MVM ribbon (and also an MVK and EK ribbon)! An with the EKI too! He definitely did something rather brave in combat at some point. Do you know his name? If so, I can look up his TKM/MVM citation information. Best regards
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Hello Chris: An excellent question. Based upon what I have seen, recipients were not guaranteed a civil service job, but if they were qualified, I believe that it certainly helped during the 3rd Reich to have been a MVM/TKM recipient. I have seen cases of many recipients who went on to become civil servants, and some who did not. Keep in mind however, if you were from a Jewish family and a TKM recipient, you were lucky if you were aloud to leave the country in the late 1930's. I have also seen the cases of political enemies of the State who were MVM/TKM recipients who were sent to Dachau for a few months to let them think about how erroneous their socialist ideals and activities were. I know of one Silber MVM/TKM recipient who was sent there twice! Best regards
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Hello again: I just noticed the large pouch on the soldier's belt on his right side. Is this a MG tool kit pouch or a Medical kit pouch? Interesting! Sadly, we can't see the numbers on his Epauletten, but I wonder if he is a soldier from a Grand Duchy of Baden regiment or a Royal Bavarian regiment? Best regards
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Hello Chris and Rick: I hate to disagree with Rick (who is usually always correct), but I believe that this medal is a Grand Duchy of Baden, Military Merit Medal (silver). If one looks closely at the photograph, one can see that the suspension is of the usual "Baden-type". The narrow dark stripe in the middle of the ribbon also matches the "red" stripe proportions for the Baden ribbon for this medal. I know that on Ebay it was listed as a bayerische MVM/TKM photo, and that at first it looks like it should be (especially with the bayerische MVK next to it), but I believe that it is not. Best regards
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Hello Wildcard! A great link! :-) If you notice he has a "shop" on the website. "His" uniform is on sale for the bargain price of USD 160,000. I wonder if "his" Orders are included. What a bargain, I am on my way to the bank now. Also, on the internet, I found a photo of him in his rollerblade attire shirtless, and wearing a copy of the Order of Albert the Bear (probably in the Grand Cross size) around his neck on a chain. This guy has real class! They must love him in Germany! Note: I will spare all of you from having to actually view the photo, so I will not re-post it here! Best regards
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Hello: Yes, it was entirely possible for such awards to have been made depending on the unit in which the soldier served or the particular duties that they had. The Austrian, Hungarian, and Bulgarian World War Commemorative Medals were available in the 1930's to soldiers who had served in the World War, submitted an application for the award, and payed the required fee. The same situation existed for the Honor Cross for Frontfighters. The first four (4) awards however were usually combat-related and were awarded upon recommendation of the Commanding Officer. In 1914 the EKII the was very prestigious, by 1918 if a soldier DIDN'T have one, they were unusual. I believe that "Ordensschleifen", "Bandschleifen", or "Ordensbandschleifen" would all describe this ribbon group adequately. Best regards
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My EK is oxidizing..
Schießplatzmeister replied to kapten_windu's topic in Preservation & Restoration of Military Artifacts
Hello: Per a tip submitted by Tom on this website years ago (and as mentioned by someone else above), I have used Boeshield T9 and had excellent results in stopping further oxidation [yes; Fe+H2O through a series of reactions ends up as Fe2O3 (rust)] of iron/steel items. This product also helps prevent future oxidation. The good thing about this product is that it does not damage painted surfaces and that after it dries it leaves a coating that is not easily detectable. A wonderful product that is a bit expensive, but well worth the purchase price in my opinion. Best regards -
Sadly, for autograph collectors this was often standard practice in the past as they only cared about the signature and not the context in which it appeared. Often, these scraps were then pasted in a scrap book. I am certain that much history has been lost due to this practice. Many order/medal collectors are not totally innocent however. Estates get split-up all of the time with helmets going to one collector, medals to another, uniforms to yet another, etc., etc. Most dealers now do this to get the highest dollar/euro amount for the items as most collectors are too specialized to want everything. I know of many order and medal collectors who don't know anything about the documents associated with the awards nor do they care. So, while we are quick to judge, sometimes our narrow focus is also part of the problem that causes "history" to be lost.
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France Museums and insignia shops to visit while in Paris?
Schießplatzmeister replied to achern's topic in France
Hello Alf: Here are two "must see" places to visit in Paris: Musee de L'Armee Musée national de la Légion d'Honneur Have a wonderful trip! -
Hello Chris: Thank you for posting these photos. This is a mystery indeed! The PLM on the right is a well-known type of copy of relatively modern manufacture. The piece on the left is possibly a Godet made piece that was modified. I would like to hear more about the story behind this. When did Jacobs give these items to Dr. Parks? Is is possible to also get a photo of the other medals that are with the Jacobs items? Since Jacobs died in 1978 in is entirely possible that he gave these items to Dr. Parks. The piece on the right may have been a piece that Jacobs owned and used for actual wearing, or a piece that he purchased to give as a gift. Very interesting. Best regards
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Hello Phillipe: I have seen many WWI German photos with numbers. I believe that they usually indicated the photographer's catalogue number. A soldier/officer could then order a print based upon the number indicated. I have not seen photos before with the "O" or "S", but perhaps this was part of a similar cataloguing system and nothing more. Best regards