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The use of diamonds on lower grade classes in Sweden is mentioned in Arvid Berghman's "Nordiska Ordnar och Dekorationer" (1949), but unfortunately without pictures of them. Didn't Russia have something similar (St. Anne etc.)? /Michael

The bidding patterns do not indicate 1) or 2)... On some occasions he didn't win and on other occasions he put in 3-4 bid even when he was the highest bidder (something you'll do if you want to raise your bid to be really sure to get it - the high bid will stay the same of course, because you can't bid against yourself). Had he been a person wanting to mess up the auction or been the seller himself, he would just put in one really high bid. /Michael

You're right Kim, let's keep it alive To continue my post #21, here is an example of the trio that most on the Hospital Ship Jutlandia received. Danish Korea (Jutlandia) Medal - UN Korea Service Medal - Korean War Service Medal This one belonged to a nurse. She apparently went through the extra work of getting miniatures and having them mounted (maybe worn as a piece of 'jewelry'). I've seen her full size trio and they were just left as unmounted singles, which is how 95% (my estimate) of the ship crew and hospital crew kept theirs. P.S: Nice group, Kim. /Michael

According to Prince Dimitri Romanoff's "The Orders, Medals and History of Greece" it is the Cross of the Bavarian Volunteer Corps. Made in Bronze and in Iron. The cross was established in 1837 and awarded to the volunteers of the Corps, of which 3545 (of 5410 in total) were Bavarians. They were forced to resign their commissions after the September 1843 revolution. /Michael

Thanks for the kind words, Brett and Kim, The obligation to return ODMs is a little tricky in Denmark... All orders are meant to be returned. Period. Some medals are required to be returned, some not. Generally, named medals are not meant to be returned (e.g. the Medal of Merit and the Life Saving medals). All the 'long service and good conduct' however are actually meant to be returned (but probably never are...) - even the Home Guard version. The Royal medal of Recompense had to be returned if awarded between 1972 and 1986 (if I remember correctly). Etc. etc. So all in all very confusing... One has to read the notes accompanying the institution of the medal to find out. As for the Korea group: Yes, most of the Jutlandia crew (nurses and ship crew) only received the Danish Jutlandia Medal (no. 3 from the left in my group), the UN medal and the Korean Service medal, and only a few of them bothered to have them mounted in a group (I guess they really didn't have opportunities to wear such a mounted group anyway). /Michael

I have shown this group before, but it seems to fit the subject The recipient was serving as a dental surgeon on the Danish hospital ship Jutlandia. The Bronze Star is privately named with his initials. /Michael

Hi Kim, Very nice indeed At least you know that WHEN you find his named medal, you won't be 'dressing up' the bar but actually restore it. /Michael

My recipient of the 3rd grade, 3rd class uses the same ribbon as above. /Michael

Well... a complete list... just the State & Court Handbooks... /Michael

Wilhelm Kleinmann was awarded the Dannebrog Commander 1. class on the 24. July 1939 (I guess the 'wings' on the bar are - dirty - silver and gold). /Michael

The first one on the upper bar could be one of the NATO medals... I can't recognize the other two - they are not usually seen on danish bars (neither is the Vatican one...)... /Mike

Claudio, I don't know if you already know, but you can use the hallmarks to date the pieces (maybe not so important here where you already know the recipient). The A9 on the "Civilf?rsvarsf?rbundet medalj i silver" means 1951. /Mike

Claudio, it's really a magnificent bar What does the back look like? /Mike

Thanks for that info Peter, I wasn't aware of that... So - just by coincidence - the Dannebrog is correct on this bar I have however often seen Swedish medal bars - especially those with the 'rounded ribbon at the bottom' mounting style with miniature rosettes on the ribbon (the rosette size you would expect on a ribbon bar). Any idea why - if you decided to actually wear a rosette - you chose the miniature one instead of the normal sized one? /Mike

Very, very nice bar Interesting to note that this Dannebrog order was awarded in the short time span 1947-52, where it would look like this, i.e. bearing the cypher of King Frederik IX (1947-72) but no rosette on the ribbon. In 1952 the Knight class was divided in two - the Knight 1.class cross in gold (gilt) and enamel with a rosette on the ribbon and the Knight cross in silver and enamel and no rosette on the ribbon. Checking Mr. Gustafsson in the handbooks reveals that the order was awarded 9. October 1947. /Mike

I keep my photos in a binder. I use the special "non-PVC for photo storage" plastic pages. Assuming that the claim of non-damage to photos is true, it seems to be the easiest solution for me. /Mike

See also this thread: Morse /Mike

Okay. Thanks for trying, Rick. Unfortunately the non-existing description that accompanies this bar reflects the level of interest the museum (T?jhusmuseet, Copenhagen) has in medals and orders. The only other mounted bar they have is a Danish one belonging to a Royal person. I know who it is and so do they, but they couldn't be bothered - it's just described as "a Danish bar" /Mike

Today I took a stroll down to one of the local museums. I saw this German medal bar in one of the display cases. The accompanying text simply says "German mounting"... Is it identifiable or is it a lost cause? I'm being rather curious... Note the rather odd 'double ribbon' on the 3rd medal from the bottom... /Mike

Splendid. Well done! What I don't quite understand is why the seller chose to sell just this - apparently not particularly rare - medal separately from the bar? /Mike

My guess is that it is "PTE" (Private) instead of PIE and that R.BERKS.R is Royal Berkshire Rifles? /Mike

An interesting observation maybe: The only recipient in my 1882 and 1900 lists with a military occupation is Alexander Nadosy von Nadas (Major-General) All the rest are hofrat, geheimerat, professor and similar... /Mike

Rick, you were quick to dismiss Dominik Hardegg... I don't know how common the Hardegg name is/was, but there seems to be some hussars among them. Is it possible that he was a military man and then moved into state affairs or is that totally unlikely? I guess the Swedish S&C handbooks did the same as the Danish ditto in that period, which is listing the recipient with the updated rank/occupation if possible? /Mike

Kim, That was also my approach. I only have the Swedish S&C handbooks from 1882 and 1900, but the only Austr-Hung. recipients listed under Wasa Commander 1. class are: 1882: - Baron Czoernig von Czernhausen - Alexander Nadosy von Nadas - Ignatius Carl von Schaeffer - Baron Strohbach - Count Zichy - Peter von Tunner - Count Ervin Fredrik Carl von Schoenborn-Buchheim - Joseph Arenstein - Carl von Offermann - Emerick von Nemeth - Fredrik von Reitz - Joseph Hyrtl 1900: - Count Zichy - Count Ervin Fredrik Carl von Schoenborn-Buchheim - Emerich von Nemeth - Freiherr Hermann von Uslar-Gleichen - Heinrich Claudius Alexander von Klaudy - Count Dominik Hardegg - Adolph von Plason So maybe he received the Order of Wasa after 1900? In that case the photo is also after 1900... is that likely? /Mike

Thanks for the tip, Brian /Mike