Eric Gaumann Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 (edited) You're more than welcome my friend.You in fact motivated me to drag my camera and my fat ass outside into the fresh air and sunshine.....I noticed that the hammer & sickle in the center of one of my OPW is misaligned (see below right).Is this common? Has anyone seen an order like this? Edited December 12, 2006 by Eric Gaumann
Gerd Becker Posted December 12, 2006 Author Posted December 12, 2006 You're more than welcome my friend.You in fact motivated me to drag my camera and my fat ass outside into the fresh air and sunshine.....I noticed that the hammer & sickle in the center of one of my OPW is misaligned (see below right).Is this common? Has anyone seen an order like this?Eric, thats nothing unusual. On many OPW?s the H&S is bent, as its 14k-Gold, which bends quite easily. Gerd
Ferdinand Posted December 23, 2006 Posted December 23, 2006 Two new OPW 2's in my collection, for a very decent price:S/N 440XX, 'Starback', Krasnokamsk Mint, T2 V1.3. Who can tell me when this one was produced?S/N 2966XX, 'Flatback', Krasnokamsk Mint, T2 V6.1. Who can tell me when this one was produced?
Mondvor Posted December 23, 2006 Posted December 23, 2006 I can tell you when those GPWs were produced, however I'd like to see the serial number. Is it any reason to cover it? As far as I know people on this forum always display the numbers.
Ferdinand Posted December 23, 2006 Posted December 23, 2006 Yes, I noticed that many people over here just show their S/N's. However I don't want my awards to be traced down by others. That way there can't be a 'Sotheby's effect'. But I never paid that much attention to the case of hiding / showing S/N's, I'm just used to doing this. Perhaps a nice subject for a discussion...
Mondvor Posted December 24, 2006 Posted December 24, 2006 I see your position. I should say that "Sotheby's effect" was possible only because of the great value of the orders displayed there. All together they worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Your GPWs are cheap staff and nobody would bother to track them down. However it is your right not to show the numbers to the other forum members.
Gerd Becker Posted December 25, 2006 Author Posted December 25, 2006 Very nice examples, Auke, especially the early one. I think, the second one is not a KMD-piece, but a LMD "concave reverse" (T2 V4.2 on soviet-screwbacks)I am not worried showing the s/n of my orders. Should there indeed be someone, who this belongs to (awardee, stolen...etc.), i will be happy to return it.Andrei, you can send all your "cheap stuff" to me
Ferdinand Posted December 25, 2006 Posted December 25, 2006 (edited) You're absolutely right Gerd, my mistake. Of course it's no Flatback I can see your points about showing S/N's. So, for the interested ones, close-ups of the two S/N's. (When were they produced?)44030296650 Edited December 25, 2006 by Ferdinand
Gerd Becker Posted December 25, 2006 Author Posted December 25, 2006 Thanks, Auke. Two very nice examples.To your second piece, according to Mondvor the first LMD-pieces were issued in the second half of 1944, so they have to have been produced before Mid 1944. Thats all, i can say.
Mondvor Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Hello Ferdinand,Thanks for showing the numbers. GPW 44030 was made at Krasnokamsk Mint in a period from August to October 1943. GPW 296650 was produced by Leningrad Mint at July - November 1944, however most of them were bestowed only in 1945.
Avitas Posted March 14, 2007 Posted March 14, 2007 Pat thats a nice one and i agree with Andrei, its a Krasnokamsk Mint production. You should think about to research it. I have one or two of those too, but i still have to make pictures. I will do one, when i have a little more time later.Thanks again for the participation everyone and just keep them coming.GerdThanks guys, and yes I have thought about getting it researched. I am just a little leery of the method, but maybe I'm just paranoid! In any case, hopefully I will get some information to go with it someday to make it a complete piece of history.Cheers,Pat
Gerd Becker Posted July 11, 2007 Author Posted July 11, 2007 Come on, guys, there must be more out there. Be careful, when you stick them together in a box, they breed
Alfred Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 (edited) Hi Gerd,that are tooooooooooo much for you. I can help you, I?ll take one...... or twonaturally the two first classes you hide in the pictureGreat looking picture.best regardsAndreas Edited July 12, 2007 by Alfred
Gerd Becker Posted July 12, 2007 Author Posted July 12, 2007 Hi Gerd,that are tooooooooooo much for you. I can help you, I?ll take one...... or twonaturally the two first classes you hide in the pictureGreat looking picture.best regardsAndreasHi Andreas,if you are nice to me, you can maybe get one or even two The two first classes are placeholder for the 2nd classes, i was to lazy to remove them from the groups, they belong to.best,Gerd
Chuck In Oregon Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 Here are three orphans that I had lying around. I have some others in groups, I think, but I'd have to look around for them.
Chuck In Oregon Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) Here's another orphan piece: Loose replacement ribbon and missing nut, too. Edited July 13, 2007 by Chuck In Oregon
Befehl227 Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Here is my OPW 2nd cl. I bought the order a few years ago, when soviet orders were a little bit cheaper!
Alfred Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Oh, an MPZZ production OGPW with 20.000 issued awards.regardsAndreas
Eric Gaumann Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Oh, an MPZZ production OGPW with 20.000 issued awards. regards AndreasAre MZPP OPW2 any more collectable than standard mint(Krasnokamsk, Moscow, Leningrad) OPWs? I know the MZPP RS's seem to be.
Befehl227 Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 (edited) Oh, an MPZZ production OGPW with 20.000 issued awards.regardsAndreas[Hallo Andreas!'Kennen uns ja schon aus'm anderen Forum! ]What is the exactly meaning of MZPP? I know (L)MD stood for Leningrad, (K)MD for Krasnokamsk...but where is/was Platinapribor located? Edited July 25, 2007 by Befehl227
Alfred Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 MPZZ is the short form for: Moskau "Platinapribor" FabrikIt is a factory located in Moscow. Due to the raising demand after Red Stars and OGPW?s a second factory startedto produce them.MPZZ OGPW?s are a little bit rarer than OGPW?s from other mints.best regards nach StuttgartAndreas
Befehl227 Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 (edited) MPZZ is the short form for: Moskau "Platinapribor" FabrikIt is a factory located in Moscow. Due to the raising demand after Red Stars and OGPW?s a second factory startedto produce them.MPZZ OGPW?s are a little bit rarer than OGPW?s from other mints.best regards nach StuttgartAndreasR?tsel gel?st! What do you think, when was my/the order issued? May/June 1945? RegardsStefan Edited July 25, 2007 by Befehl227
Ed_Haynes Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 R?tsel gel?st! What do you think, when was my/the order issued? May/June 1945? RegardsStefanResearch will say. Guesswork may get it close, but there is no substuitute for research.
Alfred Posted July 26, 2007 Posted July 26, 2007 (edited) R?tsel gel?st! What do you think, when was my/the order issued? May/June 1945? RegardsStefanYes that is possible, but only research will tell.PJS list serial number 662.588 for action in the German - Polisch erea in 06.03.1945 in his book.regardsAndreas(Sorry Paul: post edit) Edited July 26, 2007 by Alfred
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