Bob Lyons Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 And another shot of one of the straps...Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted May 18, 2007 Author Share Posted May 18, 2007 Hi Bob!Thanks for sharing those great shoulder boards. There were actually two cases where the "LS" cyphers were used. The case you mentioned and the second, with a black waffenfarbe, for LW men assigned to the Luftschultz. This set you posted is actually the latter, a Luftwaffe NCO attached to the Luftschutz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 HiThis is really nicley presented. Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Para-Badge award to a Pionier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lyons Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 I had better add my latest aquisition in here also.Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lyons Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 And just to add a little bit more about the above cap, as it turns out (thanks Gene) this cap isa postwar put together, and as such I have returned it to the source in Germany that I was buying in from.Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 (edited) "Pioneer and bautruppen, is that two words for the same thing? " No, not really. In short: Pioniere (like Fallschirm-Pioniere) were combat troops used for attack of fortifications and clearing of mine fields. Baupioniere were Engineers that build and repaired structures like bridges. Both wore the black Waffenfarbe.Regards, HardyUnusual post - I'm responding to one of my own posts to correct myself (well, partially anyway).My statement above is correct - except were I say that Baupioniere and Fallschirmpioniere wore the same Waffenfarbe (black piping and tabs).I now believe that Fallschirmj?ger of all trades with perhaps the exception of medical personell, wore the yellow Waffenfarbe.Looking at pictures of my father I thought that his collar tabs were black during the time he was a combat engineer in a Fallschirm-Pionier-Bataillon. Later he was transfered to a Fallschirm-Panzer-J?ger-Abteilung and the pictures show a much lighter Waffenfarbe (yellow).Since I never asked my father while he was alive, I assumed that once he was transferred from the combat engineers to a paratrooper anti tank battalion the black tabs were exchanged for yellow ones.Last week I was scanning more of his pictures and noticed that in some pics the apparently black tabs seemed much lighter, I then checked pictures of flight officers of the Luftwaffe (yellow tabs) and noticed that very dark appearing tabs are not uncommon. That led me to start a thread over at the WAF. http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...ad.php?t=242698To some of you this might be a non-event, but to me it's a discoveryRegards, Hardy Edited September 25, 2007 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 (edited) HelloThis cloth patch might not have any relevance to this discussion, but I thought that I could show it anyway. It's the insignia of L-BAU (Luft-Bau). I have been told, that it was used on civillian work clothes, by civillians employed by the Luftwaffe, for construction jobs.Snoopy Edited February 1, 2008 by Snoopy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 HelloThis cloth patch might not have any relevance to this discussion, but I thought that I could show it anyway. It's the insignia of L-BAU (Luft-Bau). I have been told, that it was used on civillian work clothes, by civillians employed by the Luftwaffe, for construction jobs.SnoopyHi Snoopy,The patch is very relevant. It is a construction based LW civilian organization. I will have to do an article on those men as well! I wanted to add my newest tunic to the thread.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 Insignia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 Harvy,Very interesting read, on all accounts. I,for one, thought that Bautruppen were the same as pioneers. Why could color photography not been invented and perfected 7 years earlier.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Hello!Is this Bautruppen ? Thanks for help.All the best Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Hello!Back of the photo.Farsund a city of Norway.All the best Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 Thanks for the photo... It very would could be Bautruppen. Black and white photos are tricky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Thanks for the photo... It very would could be Bautruppen. Black and white photos are tricky!Hello!Paul RAlways glad to help.I agree black and white are tricky.All the best Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessel Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Opinions, please, on these hand-sewn on black tabs on a white tunic. The shoulder boards are the removeable types.I think the tunic is period, but unsure about the insignia.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessel Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 ..other tab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessel Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Tunic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 The insignia looks beautiful to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I have a couple of Luftschutz passbooks.I've wondered, has anyone often encountered Luftwaffe members attached to the Luftschutz being awarded the Luftschutz medal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Wessel, is the ribbon bar original to the original tunic owner? If so, do you have his name? (I'm working on a Legion Condor veteran project).Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessel Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Paul, thanks for your swift response.Scott, you noticed the two Spanish awards! The bar came with the tunic but it has no loops, just pinned through, and I do not know if it is original to the tunic. There are no markings of any kind (probably as one would expect) inside the tunic.The buttons are Ludenscheid marked and have split pins on reverse.A full frontal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessel Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Does anyone out there have a metal breast eagle (at a reasonable price!)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrier Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Paul, Somewhere (and I will try to dig them out) I have some photos of Milch and, I believe, Goering, wearing black-backed tabs in pre-war times. Best, Harrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrier Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2009/post-2778-1231370772.jpgPaul, I'm not much good to you right this moment, but here is a sample of what I'm talking about. Many years ago, a friend of mine and I obtained over a hundred pages of contact sheets (positives) of photos taken by Goering's private photographer. We had these re-photographed by a professional photographer and then blown up. SOMEWHERE, I have all the envelopes of these photos, but I just can't get to them all right now. Here's a sample page of what we were dealing with. Harrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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