House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed

[Dave Danner]

Erich Adolf Haniel, *9.9.1878 in Münster. Erich Haniel and Martel née Junghann were divorced in October 1919. He was remarried in December 1921 to Ada Frida Felicitas née Wagner. He was promoted to Dr.phil. on 22.7.1922 by the University of Heidelberg (one of my alma maters), and was a Kaufmann in Nürnberg (through at least the 1942 Adreßbuch).

[webr55]

10 hours ago, Dave Danner said:

Ostrach is in Kreis Sigmaringen. Albert Müller was a Leutnant der Reserve in LIR 13 and received the Fürstlich Hausorden on 8.12.1916. If he also received the Königlich Hausorden, he might be the Lt.d.R. in IR 468, although IR 468 was a hessisch regiment and LIR 13 was westfälisch.

 

The notice in the Westfälischer Merkur was from Feb 1918, and the other one mentioned (Mettlich) got his HHOX just a few months, rather weeks, before. For Müller, I would think this notice cannot be about an award received more than a year ago. 

 

 

 

The Lt dL Raven from IR 16 in our list was August Raven, Lehrer. We had him before in this thread as "August Rawen-Bochum", at that time it was not fully clear that this is him. 

 

Wittener Tageblatt, 31.7.1917

 

Edited July 1, 2023 by webr55

[webr55]

 

This is the award notice for Hugo Urban, we had him before, died in 1932. 

 

Wittener Tageblatt, 27.9.1918

 

 

[webr55]

We have them both already, but this was an interesting article in the Wittener Tageblatt, 13.8.1934, about award recipients from Witten, which mentions the only two HHOX recipients from the town: Erich Landzettel and (Heinrich) Krumme.

 

Edited July 2, 2023 by webr55

[webr55]

On 06/08/2022 at 10:50, webr55 said:

The Lt dR Hellmich from IR 19 might be Philipp, from Bremen/Soest, acc. to VL. 

 

Additional confirmation: Hellmich is Philipp, from IR 19, Lehrer.

 

Wittener Volks-Zeitung, 18.9.1918

 

 

[webr55]

The Wittener Volks-Zeitung, 15.7.1937, lists major German WW1 decorations, their award numbers and statistics, and some of the benefits that the recipients received. Of course this was taken from other sources, and known already here, might still be interesting to show: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

According to these numbers, the HHOX was awarded 8,291 times, so every 40th officer got one. 850 recommendations were still unprocessed by the end of the war. So while the awards of both classes of the Iron Cross continued until 31.5.1924 (with 55,000 1st class and 196,000 2nd class awarded in postwar time), the HHOX was not awarded anymore. (Actually, in this thread, we have seen some cases which may have been exceptions, but even if these are true, they were extremely rare.)

 

 

Edited July 2, 2023 by webr55

[webr55]

The Pionier-Olt dR Dammann was "Königlicher Katasterlandmesser" from Berleburg. I couldn't find his first name. 

 

Wittgensteiner Kreisblatt. 24.7.1918

 

[Dave Danner]

Dammann, Heinrich, *17.2.1887 in Neukloster; 19.12.1911 Lt.d.R. (Soest) d. PB 24, 28.2.1917 OLt.d.R. (Meschede).

 

The other HOH3X Pionier Dammann was commissioned a Lt.d.R. (Stralsund) in III.PB 28 on 12.2.1917.

[Dave Danner]

One more full name and details:

 

Molle, Friedrich Erich, *20.8.1868 in Münsterberg. Hauptmann a.D., zuletzt im Pioner-Bataillon Nr. 21, früher Adjutant der 2. Pionier-Inspektion (22.3.1910 Abschied bewilligt), am 22.3.1915 Charakter als Major a.D., z.Zt. Bataillons-Führer im RIR 39, 27.1.1916 Patent seines Dienstgrades erhalten, 1918 leicht verwundet.

 

Known decorations: RAO4 (19.8.09), HOH3X (20.5.17, Maj.a.D., IR 190), Cent (22.3.97)

[webr55]

Strange: Lt dR Hans Koebke - cannot find him in our list, nor in VL. Or is that an HHOX without swords? 

 

Minden-Lübbecker Kreisblatt, 6.9.1917

 

 

 

Just a question of first name: Heinrich Henrici, not Hermann. 

 

Minden-Lübbecker Kreisblatt, 26.6.1918

 

Edited July 4, 2023 by webr55

[Dave Danner]

He was erroneously listed as Köpke by the Militär-Kabinett. HOH3X on 12.4.1917 as a Lt.d.R. in IR 375.

 

Köbke, Hans Heinrich Christian, *23.3.1892 in Bordesholm, gefallen 10.8.1917 an der Susita bei Bisighesti in Rumänien.
Kaufmann in Hamburg; Commissioned on 22.5.15 as a Lt.d.R. (II Hamburg) with a Patent of 22.3.15 in Ersatz-Infanterie-Regiment Keller of the Detachement von Westernhagen. Regiment Keller became IR 375.

 

 

[Dave Danner]

Regarding Henrici, both the Verlustliste and the 1900 Minden census (when he was a Leutnant in FAR 58), give his name as Hermann, so Heinrich is an error. He was born on 24.7.1876 in Posen.

[webr55]

More about Adolf Schulte (including his other awards), Amtsgerichtsrat in civil life, born 1874 in Günne.

 

Zeno Zeitung/Halterner Zeitung, 2.10.1935

 

 

 

 

[webr55]

First name: Peter Buchholz from Lüdorf. He must be the Lt dR from FußAB 54. 

 

Lenneper Kreisblatt, 22.4.1918

 

 

 

 

 

 

Died from the Spanish flu in 1918:

 

Lenneper Kreisblatt, 19.11.1918

 

 

 

[webr55]

Another Schulz: Lt dR Walter Schulz, Lehrer in Radevormwald

 

Lenneper Kreisblatt, 19.3.1918

 

 

[Dave Danner]

Walter Schulz was born in in Bergerhof, Lennep. He received his HOH3X on 31.1.1918 as a Lt.d.R. in IR 190. He was transferred thereafter to IR 390 and was killed in action on 9.4.1918 by Bac St. Maur as the Führer of 3./IR 370.

[Mattyboy]

Some more awards for Oblt Walter Rudolph of PB 16. 

 

[webr55]

Hptm Lipschitz should be the one from FAR 69, but I don't have his first name. 

[Glenn J]

On 05/08/2023 at 17:47, webr55 said:

Hptm Lipschitz should be the one from FAR 69, but I don't have his first name. 

 

Otto Reinhold Lipschitz

 

Regards

Glenn

[Mattyboy]

First name: Hptm dR Paul Krug. From the Schalker Zeitung, 31/12/14, 21/10/16 and 03/11/17 respectively. 

 

 

Edited August 12, 2023 by Mattyboy

[Mattyboy]

First name: Wilhelm Albrecht from Braunschweig (1883-1944). From the Stolzenauer Wochenblatt. I haven't been able to determine his WW1 regiment. 

 

[Dave Danner]

Some information on Alfons Solgadi:

 

Solgadi, Alfons Viktor Andreas

*10.8.1890 in Drei Ähren, Rappoltsweier

Lehrer in Blodelsheim

 

01.10.1912-30.09.1913 Einjährig-Freiwilliger im Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 113

03.08.1914 beim Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 170 eingezogen

06.08.1914 ins Feld

10.01.1916 Vizefeldwebel

22.08.1916 Leutnant der Reserve

31.12.1916 leicht verwundet

28.05.1918 leicht verwundet

11.10.1918 verwundet

01.11.1918 in amerikanische Gefangenschaft geraten

23.04.1919 aus der Gefangenschaft zurück und entlassen

 

08.07.1915 Kgl. Preußisches Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse

28.09.1916 Kgl. Preußisches Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse

24.11.1917 Kgl. Preußischer Hausorden von Hohenzollern, Ritterkreuz mit Schwertern

18.08.1916 Ghzgl. Badische Silberne Verdienstmedaille am Bande der Militär-Karl-Friedrich-Verdienstmedaille

10.11.1917 Ghzgl. Badischer Orden vom Zähringer Löwen, Ritterkreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwertern

01.10.1918 Ghzgl. Badischer Militär-Karl-Friedrich-Verdienstorden, Ritterkreuz

25.06.1918 Verwundetenabzeichen in schwarz

xx.xx.19xx Verwundetenabzeichen in mattweiß

[Dave Danner]

There was a Hauptmann d.R. (RDA 1.4.39) Dr. Hermann Steinmetz who was Adjutant to the Stabsoffizier der Pioniere in the staff of OB Ost in 1940. He may be the Pionier Lt.d.R. Steinmetz with the HOH3X (and/or the WVK4X), but I don't have anything further.

[webr55]

Max Krappe died in 1943 as Oberst aD.

 

Bad Oeynhausener Anzeiger und Tageblatt, 20.3.1943

[Dave Danner]

Erich Giebeler is Erich Wilhelm Karl Hermann, *17.9.1884 in Mainz-Kastel. He was a Kaufmann after WW1 and an SS-Standartenführer in WW2, serving in the SS-Führungshauptamt. He received the KVK2X on 1.9.41 and was nominated for the KVK1X, but I don't know if it was approved. He also had the VAw.