House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed

[webr55]

Mejo again confirmed with HHOX: 

 

Essener Allgemeine Zeitung, 8.7.1927

 

 

 

 

 

Fehrenberg is Leo, from Essen: 

 

Essener Allgemeine Zeitung, 6.7.1918

 

[webr55]

Eversbusch is Fritz, from Haspe

 

Hasper Zeitung, 23.11.1917

 

 

 

The LtdR Flach who got the HHOX in October is Edwin Flach from Haspe, as I understand he was from RIR 202.

 

Hasper Zeitung, 5.10.1918

 

 

[webr55]

... and Flach died in 1939:

 

Hasper Zeitung, 8.12.1939

 

[webr55]

We had him already, but some new info: Werner Calov, born 28.03.1880, was from Pioniere. 

(Hemersche Zeitung, 26.4.1917)

 

He made Polizei-Oberst around 1930: http://recherche.landesarchiv.sachsen-anhalt.de/Query/detail.aspx?ID=93459 

 

 

[webr55]

We had Hptm Willi Halbach here already. The other Halbach was Lt dR Hermann Halbach from Lage, KIA shortly before the armistice:

 

Lippische Landes-Zeitung, 25.10.1918 

[webr55]

Höver was from Detmold, but I couldn't find his first name.

 

Lippische Landes-Zeitung, 26.7.18

 

 

 

This might be a new one: Wilhelm Krehmke from IR 131, died in 1923. He is in VL as Lt, from Spandau. 

 

Lippische Landes-Zeitung, 17.4.23

 

Edited November 26, 2023 by webr55

[webr55]

 

Julius Schönian died as Oberst aD in 1942.

 

Lippische Staatszeitung, 10.12.1942

 

 

[Mattyboy]

Is this a new name, or an 'Adler der Inhaber'? Alfred Rausch

 

[webr55]

Definitely an Adler der Inhaber. 

[Mattyboy]

Ok thanks. How about this guy? Guido Behrends

 

[webr55]

Ah that one - I came across him several times. An impostor. 

[webr55]

Dr. Friedrich Speich died in 1933:

 

 

 

 

Ferdinand Leonhardi died as OTL aD in 1937:

 

Mindener Zeitung, 14.4.1937

 

Edited November 27, 2023 by webr55

[Dave Danner]

The Oberleutnant der Reserve Wiedemann in RIR 99 who received the HOH3X on 30.9.1918 should be the officer from IR 136; I./RIR 99 was formed by IR 136 and there were no other infantry Leutnants d.R. in the 1914 Rangliste.

 

Wiedemann, Heinrich Wilhelm
*29.11.1881 in Buxtehude, Jork

 

1.4.1908 Realschuloberlehrer in Wilhelmsburg
1.4.1909 Oberlehrer an der Humboldtschule in Linden
1.4.1912 Realgymn.Oberlehrer in Grunewald
1.4.1923 pensioniert

 

1.4.1907-1.4.1908 Einjährig-Freiwilliger

27.1.1912 Leutnant der Reserve (Hannover, später III Berlin) des IR 136
3.5.1917 Oberleutnant der Reserve

 

 

 

[Dave Danner]

Another teacher:

 

Hauschild, Hermann Wilhelm Karl
*6.11.1885 in Brüssow, Greifswald
gef. 4.7.1918 bei Morlancourt

Volksschullehrer in Stettin
7.8.1915 Lt.d.R. (Stettin) im Brigade-Ersatz-Bataillon Nr. 7
Führer der 6. Kompanie des Reserve-Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 232

 

The regimental history of RIR 232 says Hauschild was with that regiment since the beginning of the Serbian campaign in October 1915. I'm not sure how he went from a Pomeranian unit to a Prussian Saxon one (II./RIR 232's parent formation was FR 36), but I suppose this was not uncommon. He received the HOH3X on 31.1.1918.

[Mattyboy]

This might be a new one - Generalmajor aD Leopold von Rath, who started the war in IR 111. 

 

[Dave Danner]

Rath's is the top entry. The second obituary is for Franz v. Netzer.

[Mattyboy]

Oops 😢

[Daniel Krause]

Hello Friends,

 

thanks a LOT for the additional Info.

This thread started in 2007 and still, we are not ready.

I THINK we are less than 50 people short of being complete.

 

Best,

Daniel

[webr55]

15 hours ago, Daniel Krause said:

Hello Friends,

 

thanks a LOT for the additional Info.

This thread started in 2007 and still, we are not ready.

I THINK we are less than 50 people short of being complete.

 

Best,

Daniel

 

Daniel, I am sorry but I have to say this: we cannot go on for another 10 or 15 years. We have put a lot of effort into this, and there is so much new information we have found, it has to go out and should not be withheld from the public. We now find only very few new cases per year, rather like 5-10, at maximum. That would take us another 5-10 years, at least. And we don't even know if that total number you mention is anywhere near correct. 

 

Again, sorry, but someone has to bring this up. 

 

Chris

[Daniel Krause]

Chris,

 

fully agreed!

I think we put a deadline in spring and I think we can go public by mid 2024.

 

Best,

Daniel

[webr55]

1 hour ago, Daniel Krause said:

Chris,

 

fully agreed!

I think we put a deadline in spring and I think we can go public by mid 2024.

 

Best,

Daniel

 

Ok good!

[Dave Danner]

Maj.d.R.a.D. Karl Schönberg, who was awarded the HOH3X on 11.7.1917, is another example of annoying and inconsistent German spelling. He spelled his own name as Schönberg, and his brothers - Oberstleutnant Otto Schönberg and Maj.d.R.a.D. Franz Schönberg - also used that spelling, but Karl's name is "Schoenberg" in Prussian Army sources (Ranglisten, Militärwochenblatt).

 

Schoenberg, Karl Friedrich Otto

*7.3.1862 in Langgoslin, Obornik

Gutsbesitzer in Wasmerslage, Osterburg

 

17.10.1883 Sekondelieutenant d.R. des IR 46

15.07.1893 Premierlieutenant d.R.

15.06.1899 Hauptmann d.R.

18.08.1913 der Abschied bewilligt

28.08.1914 Kommandeur des III./RIR 227 (bis 26.12.1915)

24.10.1914 verwundet

27.01.1915 Charakter als Major d.R.a.D.

26.12.1915 zum II. Ersatz-Bataillon des FR 36

11.02.1916 Kommandeur des III./IR 153

04.10.1917 verwundet

 

Known decorations: HOH3X, EK1&2, LD1, EH2bX, VAs

 

A brief description from the RIR 227 Regimentsgeschichte:

 

Photo from the IR 153 Regimentsgeschichte:

 

Photo from the RIR 227 Regimentsgeschichte:

 

 

 

 

[Glenn J]

On 26/11/2023 at 15:56, webr55 said:

Höver was from Detmold, but I couldn't find his first name.

 

 

Chris,

 

Johannes Hoever/Höver of Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 135. Leutnant der Reserve on 22.10.14. His name is misspelt in the Militär-Wochenblatt in 1914 as Höwer.

 

Regards

Glenn

[Glenn J]

On 25/11/2023 at 17:51, webr55 said:

We had Hptm Willi Halbach here already. The other Halbach was Lt dR Hermann Halbach from Lage, KIA shortly before the armistice:

 

Hauptmann Willi Halbach was serving with RIR 88 at the time of his award. Leutnant Hermann Halbach was with RIR 67. His entry in the "Ehrenmal" lists him as a Leutnant der Landwehr, so presumably Leutnant d.L.Landw.Inf. (Detmold) of 27.1.17.

 

Regards

Glenn

 

Regards

Glenn

[Dave Danner]

Here is a Militär-Dienstzeitbescheinigung for Bavarian HOH3X recipient Lt.d.L. Karl Bader, later a Luftwaffe Oberstleutnant. No dates, but since he's Bavarian maybe there's a Kriegsrangliste on Ancestry. Luftwaffe files being the mostly worthless messes they are, there's nothing on any World War II service or other decorations, though he would have had at least the WLDA4.

 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Dave Danner