House Order of Hohenzollern - Doorn award time

[Red Eagle]

I am searching for pictures of the house order of Hohenzollern, where be awarded in the house Doorn period. I would like to compare it with my Godet piece.

Can anybody show some?

Red

[medalnet]

Not from the Doorn period, but I believe that Thies had a Eagle of the Knights for sale in one of his auctions in case with documents.

[Red Eagle]

Not from the Doorn period, but I believe that Thies had a Eagle of the Knights for sale in one of his auctions in case with documents.

Why not, can you tell me more?

Red

[medalnet]

I think he had that in one of his thinner catalogues listed, but I will check later.

[David M]

What is so specific about the Doorn periode? Are there any lists of the HHO awarded in this time? Were it just Knight Crosses or also other grades?

David

[Red Eagle]

I believe that this is a cross from the Doorner period, because the Center is made from gold.

The ribbon has silver lines. Usually there was only black white ribbon, the centers was made from silver.

Furthermore it is appropriate into a red brown case with a Godet Logo.

I compared the inscription with old adress directories. First time where Godet use the designation "Gebr. Godet & CO." was 1931. Therefore I believe that this cross was made starting from 1931.

Red

[medalnet]

The case is indeed a late case, but are you sure the center of the cross is really gold? Should be bronze gilt. Edited August 17, 2007 by medalnet

[Red Eagle]

In my opinion the centers are gold. The bronze colouring in the lower cipher comes from an light oxidation.

Red

Edited August 17, 2007 by Red Eagle

[medalnet]

Bronze gilt can look exactly like gold, is even lightweight. think of all those bronze gilt Ernestine House order 1st class badges with swords, people thing that they are gold, but really are not.....

[Red Eagle]

That can be, but I dont like to scratch the surface.

When was the cross manufactured in your opinion? Did you seen already once a similar cross?

Red

[medalnet]

I have not paid much attention to this topic, but remembered the Eagle of the Knights. It is actually pictured in Thies's 22.Auction page 36 #75:

"Adler der Ritter, vergoldet und emailiert. Am Originalband. im Originaletui des Juweliers Gebr. Godet, Berlin.

Schoenes einwandfreies Original aus dem Exil in Doorn. in dieser Ausfuehrung extrem selten.

Zustand 2. 400"

[webr55]

And here's the picture:

[Red Eagle]

Thanks a lot.

Any Inhaber Crosses out there?

Any other opinions?

Red

[medalnet]

Only pre Doorn from before 1918:

[Les]

That can be, but I dont like to scratch the surface.

When was the cross manufactured in your opinion? Did you seen already once a similar cross?

Red

"Red"

You don't need to scratch the surface. Gold and silver in contact with each other can work like a battery. Put a little bit of lemon juice (Zitronensaft) on the surface with a silver coin on top of it. If you can measure the electrical current, a solid gold center can be enough to give you a slight shock to the touch. A surface layer or plating won't do much at all.

Les

[ccj]

I am searching for pictures of the house order of Hohenzollern, where be awarded in the house Doorn period. I would like to compare it with my Godet piece.

Can anybody show some?

Red

How did you mange posting am image that large? Very nice order...

[Red Eagle]

How did you mange posting am image that large? Very nice order...

I dont post the picture. I post a link to the picture on my own webspace.

Red

[Noor]

[Red Eagle]

@Noor:

I dont think, that this is a cross from the Doorn periode. It looks like a not verry old bronze gilt cross, like the crosses from Steinhauer & L?ck.

Red

[Noor]

I am sorry Red Eagle. You are right, its Steinhauer & L?ck one.

Edited August 23, 2007 by Noor

[medalnet]

...and another before 1918 Inhaber Cross for comparison:

[Daniel Krause]

MY GOODNESS!!!!! Andreas,

where do You have that treasure from??????

18 times awarded.....

Beste Gr??e

Daniel

[Red Eagle]

My old pictures are lost, so I send new ones:

[Red Eagle]

This croos must be awared rund up to 1932/33:

[Red Eagle]

And the case: