Hindenburg Cross Types

[Kev in Deva]

Hallo Gents

jabus got the answer in before me apparently these large size ones were used on graves,

I believe there also being similar size EK IIs as well.

Kevin in Deva.

[swotl99]

And here one in the original Sales Bag

[Troy Tempest]

Troy and gang, you might find this site of some value: http://bayoswede.zoomin.se/index/29788.html

Thanks dond! A couple more makers to add to our list!

[jabnus]

Here is another interesting piece,

for comparison a normal sized medal placed aside:

regards,

Gaston

[christerd]

Hallo Gaston !

And I have problems finding a place to store my ordinary medals.... and they are small

Where do you find theese gigantic Honorcrosses?

Super items!

Anyone have more pics of makers for the honor cross, There was a maker with a small house? as mark has anybode a pic of this? I have now about 85 pics on my site but more is welcome

http://bayoswede.zoomin.se/index/29788.html

christer

[jabnus]

Christerd, you must have just a little luck sometimes ;-)

Regards,

Gaston

ps: im still looking for a version without swords....

Edited January 28, 2008 by jabnus

[christerd]

Unusual Award-paper for Honor Cross

What is so strange about this paper? Well its issued by the German Consulate in Apenrade ,Hmm to a Karl Hellweg in Sonderburg

and he is to get an Honor cross for fighters , and hes military duty is shown in his "milit?rpass" so whats unusual about that?

Sonderburg ! That?s in Denmark !! But in 1914-1918 Sonderburg belonged to Germany (Schleswig-Holstein) but after a

public vote in 1920 it was decided that it would belong to Denmark.

So this guy lived in Gemany 1918 and in Denmark 1935 but still got the Honorcross.

Interesting, its the only paper to a Danish ( well, ex german) I seen

Christer

[Sivart]

Thanks for all help, but I still need a lot of Pictures

Does anyone have good pics of the following maker BCO , GD , C. Th. D. , FHB , O & B and a lot more

I try to get better pics and load up some more documents

All the best from sweden

Christer

Here is my O & B marked version

[Sivart]

makers mark and document

[christerd]

Nice one , Sivart!

I love to see them complete with documents.

If you are interested please look at my website http://bayoswede.zoomin.se/index/29788.html and if you have pics of any of the missing maker marks

right now about 70 !! out of app 200 I would be most grateful for any help.

Christer

[Guest Rick Research]

This thread has been quiet for a while, so I thought I would horrify you guys with the world's most expensive badly forged FAKE Hindenburg Cross document:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=28978&hl=

:cheers:

[jabnus]

hehehe, come on, who falls for that?

[Guest Rick Research]

Someone with more money than brains, unfortunately. Not us here. We have more brains than money!

Here is a newspaper clipping from 18 October 1934-- just this, so I don't know what paper it came from. A local friend brought this over a while back when all his treasures got scanned. I thought it would be interesting to share--

It is rather cranky about people thinking they could have the Hindenburg Cross with swords just for having been in a unit that was in combat--when they were not. It states that they are required to PROVE from their military papers or other confirmation that they temselves were in action, and not simply a meber of a unit that was.

This may explain many of those combatant Iron Cross/"noncombatant" Hindenburg Cross medal bars we see-- as "4th Boonzaier Scenario" Iron Cross awards to war zone folks near but not in the frontlines.(All we need is a documented GROUP with complete award documents and military papers confirming that 4th type of Iron Cross awards....

[christerd]

:jumping:

Fantastic Rick !

1500 $ for that I thought I have seen all......

But I wonder, did the F?hrer himself get an award cert? Or did he just get the medal without any paperwork

Have a nice weekend all

Christer

[jabnus]

How about the irony of Ludendorff and Hindenburg being both in command in wwI and then Ludendorff getting a Hindenburg award later? I'd not be too hapy with that if i were him? :P

[Kev in Deva]

From what I understand the criteria for these awards,

required the soldier / veteran to apply for his medal from 1934 onwards,

furnishing the relevant documentation of service, etc..etc..

Can we expect that:

Kaiser Bill (Non-Combatant?)

Luddendorf,

Hindenburg,

or even Hitler, even bothered to apply

Kevin in Deva. :beer:

[Guest Rick Research]

The Kaiser couldn't have-- he was in exile and "nonexistent" as a person. Hindenburg was conveniently dead. Hitler NEVER wore his ribbons so as you say, what would have been the point?

Ludendorff was off sulking, having fallen out with the Nazis, and even though he didn't die until 1937, I don't think I've ever seen him wearing his medal bar after the Beer Hall Putsch trial.

[leigh]

Hello,

New to this forum thought ou might like to see this.

[leigh]

reverse

[leigh]

MM,

sorry dont have any pictures of the cross with me as i work away from home.

[christerd]

:jumping:

Thats was a new one !!

During more then 3o years of collecting I have never seen one of theese

Its like the Holy Graal for Honor Cross collectors

All the best from Sweden

Christer

[dond]

Anyone have a picture of one marked with AS in a Triangle, JFS, MuK, or an L/ from any Gablonz maker?

[Ulsterman]

Do you chaps check them with magnets at all?

[christerd]

Hi all,

Dond I haven?t seen any of the markings you mentioned ecept for the L/ , a L/15 made of bronce and a L/11 miniature.

AS in a triangle , JFS , MuK is unknown to me as HK makers

Are you sure they have made Honor crosses?

And Ulsterman, Yes the magnet is the first thing I test , but sorry to say so far all have been iron ones

Well, there are some more millions out there so I keep on looking...

Christer

Edited June 27, 2008 by christerd

[dond]

I've seen one AS triangle marked Hindy two-three years ago and am currently searching for the pic.