DutchBoy Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Hi Gents,I haven't paid attention to the Soviet market for a few years now. I bought alot of pieces 4-6 years ago, and have recently compared prices with what they cost today. Needless to say I am shocked! I'm sure this topic gets lots of play here on the forum, but I was so shocked I had to post this. I see Red Banners going for $450-$500 on eBay and more at dealers, when I paid $45 for mine 5 years ago. Here's some other prices I paid:Friendship of Peoples: $200Alexander Nevsky (deep dish variation): $600October Revolution: $110Labour Glory 2nd: $240Lenin type 5.2: $640The crab: $180Again, I'm sure this forum sees a lot of bellyaching about Soviet prices, but I just felt like I had to post this to come to terms with it myself! Actually, if I were ever inclined to sell these I would be sitting pretty...will never happen though!
Christian Zulus Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Dear Matthijs,I guess, that's just the beginning .... If you are well off and you have a lot of USD to spent on orders & medals, there are still some real bargains at the market .Look at Igor's website at these items - in comparison to the recent development, these orders are still "underpriced":HSU http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=17886HSU http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=18445HSL http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=17987Labour Glory 1cl http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=16705Four outstanding items! If you buy them now and sell them next year, you will make a fortune. But you will have to transfer 37k bucks to Igor .Best regards ChristianBTW: I guess, that the Soviet market is at the moment "over and out" for the ordinary collector, who doesn't want to trade items of his basic collection .Hi Gents,I haven't paid attention to the Soviet market for a few years now. I bought alot of pieces 4-6 years ago, and have recently compared prices with what they cost today. Needless to say I am shocked! I'm sure this topic gets lots of play here on the forum, but I was so shocked I had to post this. I see Red Banners going for $450-$500 on eBay and more at dealers, when I paid $45 for mine 5 years ago. Here's some other prices I paid:Friendship of Peoples: $200Alexander Nevsky (deep dish variation): $600October Revolution: $110Labour Glory 2nd: $240Lenin type 5.2: $640The crab: $180Again, I'm sure this forum sees a lot of bellyaching about Soviet prices, but I just felt like I had to post this to come to terms with it myself! Actually, if I were ever inclined to sell these I would be sitting pretty...will never happen though!
Guest Rick Research Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 I've got to agree with you Matthijs! 7 years ago, I was being laughed at for wasting good money on "that Commie junk." This is ALL being fueled by clinically DEMENTED, obsessional money-laundering from Russia-- an absurd speculators' frenzy as crazy as the tulip mania of the 17th century.At some point, political change will occur and all this truly idiotic back-grabbing will collapse with it. It isn't "national pride" or a wonderful Federation economy, it is a clique of literally insane people for whom money simply doesn't matter, driven by some sort of pathological boasting "rights" among each other. I guess using huge denomination paper money to light cigars in front of beggars has lost its charm. They could be AMASSING used chewing gum wrappers, for all they care. It is the lunatic monopolistic control of "things" by a small group seeking to literally possess ALL of EVERYTHING, beyond sanity.Rational, normal, honest people must simply sit and watch these crazy, crazy fools squandering wealth like the Emperor Caligula at some End Of The World party. If I had the BILLIONS of a real life James Bond villain, I would be buying my own private tropical island domains. Tch.
Ed_Haynes Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Agreed, Rick. But, then, you may merely be describing "collectors"? Look in the mirror, all?? As Pogo said: "We have met the enemy, and they are us."
Guest Rick Research Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Uh uh. ONE of something is "enough" for me. Anything MORE than that is the accident of individual researched recipients' lives, not a comic book scheme for Global Collecting Domination, buwahahahahahahahaa.I don't need EVERY SINGLE RED STAR EVER MINTED.
Ed_Haynes Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 But many do desire such global conquest, Rick, many do . . . [background echoes of insane laughter] . . . really.Not for me, but some want every Red Star (or EK or ___) ever made and care not at all for the history.
new world Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 Has anyone seen recent updates to RussianGlory web site?Recent additions are priced high and most of them are already sold or on hold.William
SWE Erik Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 Order of Patriotic War 2nd cl #928652 sold on Ebay for US $784.52 Must have been a very special order.../Erik
Ferdinand Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 I mjst have missed that one, can you post the item number?
SWE Erik Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 Item number: 320215451016 I can understand if it was to reunite a group or someone saw his grandfathers award on Ebay but there were 5 bidders placing really high bids on i. It's just crazy./Erik
Paul R Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 I think that the worst one is the trend on the Order of the Red Banner. These are by no means rare. I remember these going for 20 dollars a pop... now... the typical prices(On EBAY) is about 400-500 dollars!??!?!
new world Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 Red Banners sell quite well in Russia for $500-600, more for WWII period issued.If someone wins one on eBay for $400 - that's almost $200 for him.
Lapa Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 (edited) Order of Patriotic War 2nd cl #928652 sold on Ebay for US $784.52 Must have been a very special order.../Erik Guys,It was a rare, trench-type variety. Even though, that was a rather steep price for it IMHO Marc Edited February 17, 2008 by Lapa
Ed_Haynes Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Insane price? Maybe? Maybe not? RBL type 1.1:http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=18414Just $65,000.00.Just.
Ed_Haynes Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 And, if you think Soviet prices are crazy, try this Tsarist twin:http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=18549Just over THREE TIMES the previous . . . Nice . . . but . . .
DutchBoy Posted February 18, 2008 Author Posted February 18, 2008 Ed,That is simply nuts. I'd prefer a Rolls Royce or a nice condo for that money...And, if you think Soviet prices are crazy, try this Tsarist twin:http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=18549Just over THREE TIMES the previous . . . Nice . . . but . . .
Christian Zulus Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 And, if you think Soviet prices are crazy, try this Tsarist twin:http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=18549Just over THREE TIMES the previous . . . Nice . . . but . . . Gentlemen,I guess, that Igor did a mistake in typing the price tag into the website ?Well, it's just an ordinary and rather late St. George Cross of the 4th class + that medal, of which 697 items had been issued ... Maybe USD 25000,- ....Best regards Christian
new world Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Ed,That is simply nuts. I'd prefer a Rolls Royce or a nice condo for that money...But you have to keep in mind that potential buyers of this group already have all the acrs they want, as well as condos and villas. The group is not for us mere mortals, it's for collectors with REAL money.I have a feeling the listing for this group will not last.William
order_of_victory Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 How about this one then igors sitehttp://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=18403 Order of Victory
matteti Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 How about this one then igors sitehttp://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=18403 Order of VictoryWe have a fellow on the other forum that has a nicer BK1, with lower number (serial number #9) and with PMD authentication....what price would Igor asks for that one?
new world Posted February 22, 2008 Posted February 22, 2008 What Igor asks and what it's going to sell for are two different things.Just because a member here owns BK1 it does not equal that he automatically has even $140K in his pocket.William
matteti Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 What Igor asks and what it's going to sell for are two different things.Just because a member here owns BK1 it does not equal that he automatically has even $140K in his pocket.WilliamI agree with you William. That's why I said "what price would Igor asks for that one?" and not "for how much this member could sell his BK1?". What I also wanted to express was that these awards that are totally out of reach for most of collectors (me the first!) are not only owned by rich Russian oligarchs, but also by members of our collectors community.
Paul R Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 Here is the latest madness!!!Order of the Red Banner, number 92431Went for 1007 dollars!!!!!!http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=004
Paul R Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 Here is the latest madness!!!Order of the Red Banner Screwback, number 6068Went for 3661.00 dollars!!!!!!I know that the number is low, but MY GOD!http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=004
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