Brunswick devices

[Laurens Q]

The day before yesterday, these two items were waiting in my mailbox when I came home. The ribbon bar with the Brunswick device is the first one in my collection. I think nothing is wrong with this bar in general. However, I would like to comment on the sort of misshaped corners left and right. On those spots and underneath the ribbons, it feels fragile. When gently looking to the side, one can see a white-like powder. I have no clear explanation, but it kind of looks like a chemical reaction to the backing plate. It is no rust, but should be something else. It's important to say that those corners of the metal plate are no longer there and could be pulvarised??

The second item is a larger Brunswick device, and I guess these were used on medal bars. I have never seen one of these, therefore added some scans and photos. I hope shape, prongs and dimensions are correct. It measures 30x23mm or 1.18x0.90 inches.

Both items came on a piece of carton as well. They came that way, so I might as well leave it like that...

Thanks for any input,

Laurens

[Laurens Q]

Is this a mid 30's version, as can be seen in the ribbon bar database from Rick?

[Laurens Q]

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[Laurens Q]

Inside my old HP-scanner

[Laurens Q]

ribbon bar carton

[Laurens Q]

next one

[Laurens Q]

last image...

[Guest Rick Research]

The gray powder is probably Zinkpest.

Undoubtedly a 1930s ribbon bar device.

The big one, I do not know. I don't have a medal bar one to judge before or after mounting with a Hindenburg Cross on it for before or after 1934, and I've never seen one loose.

[Tom Y]

von Hessenthal states the device as being 30mm high by 23mm wide. Here's a full size one on a ribbon for comparison. The cross and ribbon are both 30mm.

[Eric Stahlhut]

i took a look at a device that was readily available and noticed that the prongs on my example are much thinner. prongs/splinten are actually stuck all the way through a green-painted d.r.g.m. marked backing plate.

i can post an image later (not enough light right now) if necessary.

weren't some of the early original issue devices supposed to be made of silver?

[Laurens Q]

Thank you for the comments everyone.

Tom, Eric, I'd be delighted to learn or see more from the reverse of your device. These don't show up often loose...

Laurens

[Ulsterman]

Perhaps the size and separate purchase/issue explains this (photo @ 1934):

Edited September 11, 2008 by Ulsterman

[Eric Stahlhut]

very tarnished. 30 x 23mm.

[Eric Stahlhut]

prongs are visible.

i was tempted to detach the device, but it's on there pretty tight. i'd regret it if one of the prongs happened to snap off.

[pinpon590]

Here is mine :

:cheers:

[Wild Card]

Here is mine :

And here is his little brother

[Stogieman]

Still my favorite... mint in the cardboard box from the original retail outlet:

[Stogieman]

another view:

[Stogieman]

already pronged to the ribbon when this one was sold:

[Laurens Q]

Hello guys,

I'm pushing this thread to the top to see if more loose devices have surfaced in the meantime.

The example in my collection measures 30mm x 23mm. Any more thoughts regarding originality?

Best,

Laurens

[M Hunter]

Some very nice items posted chaps. I particularly like Wild Card's miniature!

I too wonder if Laurens is an original spange? Are the prongs on the reverse an excepted period style?

My best

Matt

Edited September 10, 2010 by M Hunter

[Claudio]

A beautiful medal bar that I failed to purchase during an auction some years ago... This was really good! I like also the tag on the back! :cheers:

[Wild Card]

Some very nice items posted chaps. I particularly like Wild Card's miniature!

My best

Matt

Thank you Matt.

Claudio

Wild Card

[M Hunter]

A beautiful medal bar that I failed to purchase during an auction some years ago... This was really good! I like also the tag on the back!

Beautiful indeed!

Matt