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    Vatjan

    By Vatjan
    in People's Republic Mongolia

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    Vatjan Mentor

    Vatjan

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    So roughly we could say that pinbacks have kept their value last year, but that screwbacks have steadily gone up in value.

    Which is probably logical up to a certain point.

    Jan

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    avsaribar
    avsaribar

    Hello There , Dear Bob , first of all , i really wish to congratulate you for your knowledge about the Mongolian Orders and your beautiful collection of Sukhbaatars.. All my life , i am very happ

    avsaribar
    avsaribar

    Yeah , but honestly , Dimitrovs are not attractive for me.. Here , The Sukhbaatar and some of his other friends... :)

    Lingqi
    Lingqi

    I am so happy to have my very first Sukhbaatar Order. It is from Avsar Ibar and I did not realise that you are the member of this forum as well.

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    Ed_Haynes Grand Master

    Ed_Haynes

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    So roughly we could say that pinbacks have kept their value last year, but that screwbacks have steadily gone up in value.

    Which is probably logical up to a certain point.

    Jan

    That seems a fair analysis, Jan. To a considerable degree, I suspect we are just seeing supply and demand, especially for the older (screwback) awards. For SBs (as for everything else), the days of easy availability at low prices are long past. Just remember what they sold for your first time in UB?! :P

    Pondering doing a JOMSA article on the SB which may impact the market. As we know, once you have seen a SB, . . . :jumping:

    Ed_Haynes Grand Master

    Ed_Haynes

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    Ed,

    How much were they selling for? Just curious...

    William

    Jan's tale is the scary one. Let him answer.

    My last time there (last March) all the dealers had printouts of Igor's site and priced accordingly, though they were holding onto their SBs, waiting for prices to rise even more. :speechless1:

    Bob Grand Master

    Bob

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    1.000 USD is a lot to pay for a screw in my mind... :speechless1:

    Of course, if/when research becomes possible and depending on what this will actually provide in terms of information... it may provde to be worth that difference.

    Vatjan Mentor

    Vatjan

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    Ok, when I was there in 1988, they were selling SB for the price of the precious metals in them, which was about ... 50 US at the time.

    Unfortunately, I had no interest in medals whatsoever, at that point in my life. still KICKING myself for that. :banger::banger::speechless:

    Bob Grand Master

    Bob

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    That represents a little over 20% appreciation year over year... buy now or by 2010 a pinback will cost you 4K USD... and I'd suspect the rate of increase on these will only be increasing so 4K is probably "conservative".

    Of course, had you bought Microsoft shares back in the day and sold them now, you could have bought even MORE SB's at this moment AND have money left on the side for some other nice awards - of course, then you'd not have the fun of fondeling your SBs on rainy sunday afternoons so many years :cheeky:

    Bob Grand Master

    Bob

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    Uhoh... by by (or rather: buy buy!) "cheap" SB's. I think it's now turned into a sellers market...

    RECENTLY SOLD

    pinback

    - USD 1.870, nr 1.918, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007

    - USD 1.880, nr 1.785, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007 (boxed)

    - USD 1.950, nr 860, www.russianglory.com - MARCH 2007

    - EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.100 USD), nr 1183, www.huesken.com - MARCH 2007

    - EURO 1.650 (roughly 2.200 USD), nr 1514, www.huesken.com - JUNE 2007

    - EURO 1.300 (roughly 1.700 USD), nr 1246, private seller - SEPTEMBER 2007

    - EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.200 USD - before fees!), nr 1514, Andreas Thies October auction - OCTOBER 2007

    - USD 1.850, nr 1947, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2007

    - USD 2.150, nr 1.837, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

    screwback

    - USD 1.680, nr 644, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2006

    - EUR 1.630 (roughly 2.150 USD), nr 585, Albert GMIC - MAY 2007

    - USD 2.650, nr 644 (again!), Nota Bene - OCTOBER 2007 (boxed)

    - USD 2.900, nr 640, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

    CURRENTLY FOR SALE

    screwback

    - USD 3.300, nr 227, Coinsell (on eBay)

    Bob Grand Master

    Bob

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    Zoommmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    Enjoy what you have?

    That for sure! I still remember the day when I got my first SB in the mail - a very, very happy boy! :jumping: The powerful image, high quality and sheer weight of the order blew me away. I'm glad I was able to give it some brothers/sisters but I doubt they'll be getting anymore SB's to keep each other warm :unsure:

    fjcp Experienced

    fjcp

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    I still hope that one day I will get one :(

    Order of Victory

    Well I think that Igor may still have two that he hasn't listed yet....

    Perhaps just a theory but who knows ...My guess is that he'll list #448 at well over 3k any day now and perhaps #1635 will follow...

    I'm glad I have a couple and that's enough for me........Just need a few small pieces to complete the puzzle... A21,22,25,31,40.1.2,60 B02 C01,2 D01,2,3 F01 :banger:

    Anybody wanna help??? :rolleyes:

    JC

    Ed_Haynes Grand Master

    Ed_Haynes

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    Well I think that Igor may still have two that he hasn't listed yet....

    Perhaps just a theory but who knows ...My guess is that he'll list #448 at well over 3k any day now and perhaps #1635 will follow...

    I'm glad I have a couple and that's enough for me........Just need a few small pieces to complete the puzzle... A21,22,25,31,40.1.2,60 B02 C01,2 D01,2,3 F01 :banger:

    Anybody wanna help??? :rolleyes:

    JC

    Ohhhh. :o

    Your wish list . . . maybe . . . may be . . . .

    Have some goodies "on the horizon" . . . .

    fjcp Experienced

    fjcp

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    Ohhhh. :o

    Your wish list . . . maybe . . . may be . . . .

    Have some goodies "on the horizon" . . . .

    Thank you Ed, that would be great!! :jumping:

    JC

    Bob Grand Master

    Bob

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    Also know a dealer in Europe who doesn't advertise openly but had some of the things you are looking for last time I visited him. $$$ though...

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    Bob Grand Master

    Bob

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    Well I think that Igor may still have two that he hasn't listed yet....

    Perhaps just a theory but who knows ...My guess is that he'll list #448 at well over 3k any day now and perhaps #1635 will follow...

    I'm glad I have a couple and that's enough for me........Just need a few small pieces to complete the puzzle... A21,22,25,31,40.1.2,60 B02 C01,2 D01,2,3 F01 :banger:

    Anybody wanna help??? :rolleyes:

    JC

    JC... so can we assume you have an A1 / A2? If so - please show some pics :cheeky::cheers:

    fjcp Experienced

    fjcp

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    JC... so can we assume you have an A1 / A2? If so - please show some pics :cheeky::cheers:

    HI Bob,

    Yup!! I have two of each!! They are sitting in my display cabinet next to my order of victory and my victoria cross!! :cheeky:

    Bob, I'm a realist at heart and I'm afraid that those pieces will probably never be mine!

    I'm pretty sure that A21 and A31 ain't gonna happen either.

    I'm still young(ish) though, so who knows.

    and sorry I didn't reply to your PM but thank you very much for the info...

    Cheers

    JC

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    Bob Grand Master

    Bob

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    Just sold in Russia for around $2,500 (58,300 Roubles).

    Note interesting serial number - 777!

    Better than 666 :cheeky:

    Bob Grand Master

    Bob

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    RECENTLY SOLD

    pinback

    - USD 1.870, nr 1.918, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007

    - USD 1.880, nr 1.785, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007 (boxed)

    - USD 1.950, nr 860, www.russianglory.com - MARCH 2007

    - EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.100 USD), nr 1183, www.huesken.com - MARCH 2007

    - EURO 1.650 (roughly 2.200 USD), nr 1514, www.huesken.com - JUNE 2007

    - EURO 1.300 (roughly 1.700 USD), nr 1246, private seller - SEPTEMBER 2007

    - EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.200 USD - before fees!), nr 1514, Andreas Thies October auction - OCTOBER 2007

    - USD 1.850, nr 1947, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2007

    - USD 2.150, nr 1.837, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

    screwback

    - USD 1.680, nr 644, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2006

    - EUR 1.630 (roughly 2.150 USD), nr 585, Albert GMIC - MAY 2007

    - USD 2.650, nr 644 (again!), Nota Bene - OCTOBER 2007 (boxed)

    - USD 2.900, nr 640, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

    - USD 2.500, nr 777, somewhere in Russia - DECEMBER 2007

    CURRENTLY FOR SALE

    screwback

    - USD 3.300, nr 227, Coinsell (on eBay)

    Bob Grand Master

    Bob

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    RECENTLY SOLD

    pinback

    - USD 1.870, nr 1.918, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007

    - USD 1.880, nr 1.785, Nota Bene - JANUARY 2007 (boxed)

    - USD 1.950, nr 860, www.russianglory.com - MARCH 2007

    - EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.100 USD), nr 1.183, www.huesken.com - MARCH 2007

    - EURO 1.650 (roughly 2.200 USD), nr 1.514, www.huesken.com - JUNE 2007

    - EURO 1.300 (roughly 1.700 USD), nr 1.246, private seller - SEPTEMBER 2007

    - EURO 1.600 (roughly 2.200 USD - before fees!), nr 1.514, Andreas Thies October auction - OCTOBER 2007

    - USD 1.850, nr 1.947, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2007

    - USD 2.150, nr 1.837, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

    screwback

    - USD 1.680, nr 644, Nota Bene - NOVEMBER 2006

    - EUR 1.630 (roughly 2.150 USD), nr 585, Albert GMIC - MAY 2007

    - USD 2.650, nr 644 (again!), Nota Bene - OCTOBER 2007 (boxed)

    - USD 2.900, nr 640, www.collectrussia.com - NOVEMBER 2007

    - USD 2.500, nr 777, somewhere in Russia - DECEMBER 2007

    CURRENTLY FOR SALE

    pinback

    - USD 2.450, nr 1.764, http://auction-su.com/-,itemname,160966,id,auctiondetails

    screwback

    - USD 3.300, nr 227, Coinsell (on eBay)

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