JimZ Posted August 1, 2011 Author Posted August 1, 2011 Yes Dan, in fact I prepared this question for my next victory.... so without much ado, here goes: Question 22 Below are bits of 9 various ODMs Please list from 1 - 9 giving the full and correct English name of the respective ODM - there is no need to give the class (if applicable). Its a fairly easy question if you are familiar with ODM's .... but might need some research for those who do not collect them..... I'd like to start putting some focus on ODMs themself in this quiz too. First full correct answer secures the point - Remeber that partial answers will only assist other members to answer correctly ....... Enjoy and good luck!! Jim
JimZ Posted August 1, 2011 Author Posted August 1, 2011 I can see Harvey and Hauptmann waiting already....wonder who will get it Good luck guys!!!
Harvey Posted August 1, 2011 Posted August 1, 2011 1. Order of the Red Banner for Labor 2. Order of Alexander Nevsky 3. Medal for Strengthening Combat Alliance 4. Order of the Red Banner 5. Medal for Armed Forces Veterans of the USSR 6. Order of Service to the Motherland 7. Medal for Combat Service 8. Medal for Bravery 9. Medal for Valiant Labor
JimZ Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) Harvey, I am not accepting 1,3 5 and 6 as correct due to slight inaccuracies in the name. There are several translations but for the purposes of this answer (where I requested the full and correct english name) I am relying on the McDaniel/Schmitt translations. Just to help you out.... 1 - needs one word replaced 3 - needs the last two words replaced 5 and 6 are not the proper full names ....all as translated!! You can probably run a few more searches and will find the correct translated names that I am looking for - granted that you find the medals under various names....which is why I am relying on the names in the book we all know as, the Red Bible!! Jim :cheers: Edited August 2, 2011 by JimZ
JimZ Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 Gents - Harvey did most of the hard work and is almost there....perhaps we let him modify his answer and get the point himself.....? Just a sportsman's suggestion!! Of course, first full correct answer still secures.... Jim :cheers:
Harvey Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Ok, not having the "Red Bible" in front of me, this is the best I can come up with. I did take most of my answers from The Soviet Military Awards Page, which is not quite the same as Wikipedia. 1. Order of the Red Banner of Labor 2. Order of Alexander Nevsky 3. Medal for Strengthening Military Cooperation (За укрепление боевого содружества) 4. Order of the Red Banner 5. Medal for Veteran of Armed Forces of the USSR (Ветеран Вооружённых Сил СССP) 6. Order for Service to the Homeland in the Armed Forces of the USSR (За службу Родине в Вооружённых Силах СССР) 7. Medal for Combat Service 8. Medal for Bravery 9. Medal for Valiant Labor
JimZ Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 Harvey, I would say that the answer is now complete. Whether you used another forum, a dealer site or wikipedia does not really matter. The authors of the "Red Bible" are probably the only ones who have translate the descriptions word for word from the medals or the award booklets. You do come across several different and even incorrect or incomplete translations. Given that this book is THE most authoritative book on Soviet ODMs written in English to date (even if slighly out dated now and even if there are some lovely books written by Durov and Strekalov in Russian language), I still use it as a reference point for terminology. So the point goes to you... and I am glad that nobody jumped in to take the point in the last minute - of course I would have accepted that, but still glad that if you did the spade work, you got the point! Well done. Jim :cheers:
JimZ Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 The score is presently as follows: 7 points - JimZ 6 points - Harvey 4 points - Hauptmann (Dan) 3 points - Valter 1 point - kapten_windu 1 point - Gunner 1 and now...to Harvey's question 23..... Jim :cheers:
Harvey Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Ok, here's mine: Name the following six individuals:
JimZ Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 1 - Alexander Nevsky 2 - Alexander Suvorov 3 - Mikhail Kutuzov 4 - Bogdan Khmelnitsky (my avatar) 5 - Fyodr Ushakov 6 - Pavel Nakhimov Jim :cheers:
Harvey Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Yeah, how did I know that you'd get these, Jim? Ok, your point & your question!
JimZ Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 :whistle: Harvey... I could not resist that!!! I should probably sit back for a few turns and give others a chance..... Let me come up with the next one........
JimZ Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 The score is presently as follows: 8 points - JimZ 6 points - Harvey 4 points - Hauptmann (Dan) 3 points - Valter 1 point - kapten_windu 1 point - Gunner 1 I will come up with question 24 shortly..... Jim :cheers:
JimZ Posted August 3, 2011 Author Posted August 3, 2011 Question number 24 I am a Russian Hero, a recipient of various orders of Lenin and other awards and prizes. Yet in 1936 and in 1948, I fell from official favour. One of my works (written between these two dates) embodies the defiance of our nation. This work still still stands as testament to our sacrifice. Who Am I? In what year did I complete this work and what is it called? Good luck!! Jim :cheers:
Hauptmann Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) Dmitri Dmitriyevich Shostakovich Seventh Symphony (Leningrad Symphony) 27 December 1941 http://en.wikipedia....ri_Shostakovich Awards: Soviet Union Hero of Socialist Labor (1966) Order of Lenin (1946, 1956, 1966) Order of the October Revolution (1971) Order of the Red Banner of Labour (1940 Order of Friendship of Peoples (1972) People's Artist of the USSR (1954) Lenin Prize (1958) State Stalin Prize in arts (1941, 1941, 1942, 1946, 1946, 1948, 1949, 1949, 1949, 1950, 1952) Finland Sibelius Award (1958) United States Oscar nomination for Khovanshchina, Best Score (Musical) in 1961 United Kingdom Gold Medal of the Royal Philharmonic Society (1966) Austria Decoration for Services to the Republic of Austria in Silver (1967) Denmark Sonning Award (1974) http://www.youtube.c...feature=related http://www.youtube.c...h?v=6xlqsXlapK8 Funny thing is, I'd actually found a reference to him and this symphony while I was searching for the answer to the question about the double amputee hero who was well known in Leningrad. Dan :cheers: Edited August 3, 2011 by Hauptmann
JimZ Posted August 3, 2011 Author Posted August 3, 2011 Bravo Dan! Was it that straightforward? Indeed Shostakovich is our composer hero!! Well done!! Jim :cheers:
JimZ Posted August 3, 2011 Author Posted August 3, 2011 The score is presently as follows: 8 points - JimZ 6 points - Harvey 5 points - Hauptmann 3 points - Valter 1 point - kapten_windu 1 point - Gunner 1 Question 25 is in Dan's hands......! Jim :cheers:
Hauptmann Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Bravo Dan! Was it that straightforward? Indeed Shostakovich is our composer hero!! Well done!! Jim Well, as I said this was something a ran across in one of my previous searches, was already familiar with it but it was fresh in my mind for that reason. Just happened to be the right question at the right time. Truly a fascinating story full of sacrifice. Here's the reference I ran across during the other search which goes into more detail. It's amazing what they had to do to perform this in Leningrad the first time. http://www.imdb.com/search/text?realm=name&field=bio&q=Frontline Dan :cheers:
Hauptmann Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Okay, Question 25: I was a legend in the USSR. I looked more like a professor than a fighter. My awards were: Cross of St. George (2) (Presented personally by Tsar Nicholas II) Order of Lenin (4) Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky 1st Class Order of Suvorov 2nd Class Order of the Red Banner I ended my "military" service in fairly high rank, the insignia of which was delivered to me in a rather unusual way. After the war I continued to serve in key positions of leadership in the part of the USSR where I was born. Who was I? Where was I born? What did I do during the war? Dan :cheers:
JimZ Posted August 3, 2011 Author Posted August 3, 2011 I might be.... - Sydir Artemovych Kovpak - also twice HSU - Born in Ukraine near Poltova - Leader of soviet partisans and downright pain in the backside to German forces Apparantly, upon promotion to Major General, his stars were airdropped as he was presently serving behind enemy lines. Jim :cheers:
Hauptmann Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Bingo! Right on target! Congratulations! :jumping: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydir_Kovpak It's back in your court Jim. Dan :cheers:
JimZ Posted August 3, 2011 Author Posted August 3, 2011 The score is presently as follows: 9 points - JimZ 6 points - Harvey 5 points - Hauptmann 3 points - Valter 1 point - kapten_windu 1 point - Gunner 1 Question 26 is next ......! Jim :cheers:
JimZ Posted August 3, 2011 Author Posted August 3, 2011 Guys, I am not in a position to follow and monitor as much as I would like to over the next couple of days as I am busy with some work related stuff. As a result, I would like to pass the question to anyone else, ideally a new member who has not yet participated in the quiz! I am sure someone will take up this challenge and honour. I think the rules are working pretty well and we have things going. I would however like to propose an additional rule. When passing a question on to someone else, you are not allowed to answering that question. So basically, rather than sit back and enjoy answering questions, when any participant gains a point but passes the right to answer the question, he loses the right to particpate in that next questions. Hence if someone takes up the next challenge, I will not be able to reply to that question. Harvey, Hauptmann, as the next two runner ups, do you think that this rule is fair? - If so I will add it on to the rules on the front page. Jim :cheers:
Harvey Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) Sounds fair to me - I just wish there were more than 6 people participating! Here's an additional thought: if someone "picks up the gauntlet" to provide a question, even though it's not their "turn," they should be awarded 1/2 point for their efforts - that way, it might encourage more people to step up and provide questions instead of waiting for someone else to do so. So for example, you answered the last question, but are too busy with work and such to provide the next one. So you pass, and are prohibited from answering the next question as a result. Fair enough. But now, whoever steps up to fill the gap also gets penalized, since they (obviously) can't answer their own question. Giving them 1/2 point for their efforts might help balance things out a bit. What do y'all think? Edited August 3, 2011 by Harvey
Harvey Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 And here's what I found about Kovpak: Sidor Artemievich Kovpak - Putivl guerrilla commander and guerrilla groups in the Sumy region, a member of the illegal Communist Party (Bolsheviks) of Ukraine, Major-General. Born May 26 (7 June) 1887 in the village Kotel'va, now small town of Poltava region, to a poor peasant family. A member of the Communist Party since 1919. He graduated from the parish school. At 10 years of age, Sidor Kovpak worked at the local grocer, doing the dirty and hard work. After serving his military service in Alexander's infantry regiment in the Saratov, he stayed there to work at the river port and tram depot as a laborer. At the beginning of World War I, Kovpak mobilized into the Russian imperial army. In 1916, serving in the 186th Infantry Regiment (Aslanduzskogo) he participated in Brusilov breakthrough, becoming famous as a daring reconnaissance leader and was twice awarded the Cross of St. George . As an experienced soldier imbued with revolutionary mood, Kovpak sided with the Bolsheviks. In 1917, the soldiers elected Kovpak to the regimental committee. In 1918, Kovpak returned to his native Kotel'va, where he took an active part in the struggle for Soviet power as the head of the Land Commission for the distribution of landed estates among the poor peasants. During the Civil War, Kovpak headed the Kotelvskogo guerrilla group. Under his command, the guerrillas, along with the Red Army, carried out military operations against the Austro-German invaders and Denikin. In May 1919, he joined the partisans of the Red Army. As part of the 25th Division (Chapayev), Kovpak took part in the defeat of the White Guard troops under Guriev, as well as in the battles against the troops under Perekop Wrangel in the Crimea. From 1921-1926, Kovpak worked as an assistant district commissioner of the military, the military commissar of the county in Tokmak, Genichesk, Krivoy Rog, and as district military commissioner in Pavlograd. In 1926 he transferred to the reserves. In 1926 he was named Chairman of the Pavlograd military cooperative society, then as the chairman of an agricultural cooperative in the Putivl Sumy region of the Ukrainian SSR. ----------------------------- Ok, I can't transcribe any more - you'll just have to read it as Google translates it ----------------------- Since 1935 - head of the road department Putivl executive committee. In elections to local councils in 1936 SA Kovpak was elected to the City Council Putivl. Since 1937, the chairman of the executive committee of the city Putivl. In this position, SA Kovpak and found the Great Patriotic War. In July 1941, at Putivl to fight behind enemy lines, was formed guerrilla group, the commander of the district Party committee which approved the Putivl SA Kovpak. Material and technical base of the detachment was founded in Spadshchansky forest. After appropriate training September 8, 1941, SA Kovpak sent into the woods all of the guerrilla group, and 10 September in the Nazi troops invaded Putivl. Soon to join the Red Army squad, encircled, and number of adults and 42 men, 36 of them had guns. September 27, 1941 in Putivl detachment joined a group of party activists from Konotop. The first fighting against the Nazi occupiers began guerrilla group in the village Safonovka. In mid-October in the forest came Spadshchansky partisan detachment under the command of S. Rudnev . October 18, 1941 was finally formed Putivl guerrilla group. His commander was SA Kovpak, Commissioner - SV Rudnev . In the squad there were about 70 fighters, as many rifles, mostly captured, light machine gun. October 19, 1941 in Spadshchansky Forest broke Nazi tanks. We started the fight, which resulted in the guerrillas captured three tanks. After losing a large number of soldiers and military equipment, the enemy was forced to withdraw and return to Putivl. It was a turning point in the battle of the guerrilla group. December 1, 1941 about three thousand Nazis, supported by artillery and mortar fire began to advance on Spadshchansky forest. SA Kovpak closely followed the mood of the guerrillas into account their views. With a great deal of combat experience, SA Kovpak realized how much it means the success of the battle to lift the morale of troops and rally squad. The unequal battle lasted all day and ended in victory for the guerrillas. Inspired by the example of the commander and the commissar, who fought with all the partisans of any move to turn away from their busy position. All enemy attacks in this battle were repulsed. The enemy lost about 200 soldiers and officers, men mined trophies - 5 machine guns and 20 rifles. These are the first battles helped combat commander of the SA experience Kovpak, manifested his military talent, courage and bravery, combined with a deep understanding of guerrilla tactics, with sober calculation and the ability to navigate the most difficult situation. Since then stay in the woods was dangerous Spadshchansky, SA Kovpak and SV Rudnev changed tactics squad was moving and inflicted devastating blows to the enemy during raids. These raids were tested new tactics and strategy, which became a major contribution to the development of guerrilla warfare. In December 1941 - January 1942 Putivl detachment carried out a raid in combat Hinelskie, and in March - the Bryansk Forest. There he quickly rose to 500 people, well armed with both domestic and captured weapons. It was the first raid kovpakovtsev. The second raid on his native Sumy began May 15 and continued until July 24, 1942. During this time, the guerrillas held a series of battles against superior forces of the Nazis. The enemy lost about fifteen hundred people. The raid was notable for the fact that on the night of May 27, 1942 came into force Putivl. Hometown liberators greeted with tears of joy and gratitude. I kazom Presidium of the Supreme Soviet on May 18, 1942 for the successful conduct of military operations to destroy enemy garrisons, military equipment of the enemy and undermining the railway facilities Kovpak Sidor Artemievich Hero of the Soviet Union and the Order of Lenin and medal "Gold Star" (№ 708). Given the active participation of SA Kovpak in the development of the guerrilla movement, the Party Central Committee decision of October 2, 1942 approved a member of the illegal Communist Party (Bolsheviks) of Ukraine. October 26, 1942 was issued in connection road from the Bryansk Forest Right-Bank Ukraine. Forced the fighting from the Desna, Dnieper and the Pripyat kovpakovtsy reached the area Olevsk in Zhytomyr. Every day the fighting compound guerrilla units under the command of SA Kovpak acquired experience in active operations behind enemy lines. The best examples of guerrilla art is the famous "Operation Sarny cross", made during a raid on the right bank guerrillas blew up the bridges at the same time five railway lines Sarny site and completed the march rout the enemy garrison in Lelchitsy. SA Kovpak and SV Rudnev in the raid showed great military prowess. April 9, 1943, SA Kovpak was awarded the rank of "Major-General." "Now, - said Sidor Artemyevitch - we must fight intelligently, more sensibly. After all, we now honor, a part of the regular Red Army." In Moscow, the same thought: in all orders and radio connection SA Kovpak referred to as "military unit № 00 117." Completing tasks the Party Central Committee on further development of the partisan movement in Ukraine, the illegal Communist Party (Bolshevik) of April 7, 1943 considered the operational plan for military operations in the spring and summer, and decided to relocate several large partisan units in the western and south-western part of Ukraine to launch nation-wide struggle in the Volyn, Lviv, Drohobych, Stanislav, Chernivtsi regions, as well as organize local guerrilla forces and joint combat and sabotage on the railway communications and oil industry. guerillas were in a combat tour in Carpathian June 12, 1943. To exit the Carpathian raid the compound numbered about 2,000 guerrillas. On arms were 130 guns, 380 automatic, 9 guns, 30 mortars, 30 antitank guns, rifles and other weapons. During the raid, the guerrillas have been fighting with for about two thousand miles, destroyed and injured more than 3,800 Germans blew up 19 military trains, 52 Bridge 51 warehouse, knocked out power plants and oil fields near Bitkova and Yablonovy. The raid was one of the outstanding operations of partisans in the Second World War. Carried out during the Battle of Kursk, he had a great moral and political significance. Sowing confusion and anxiety behind enemy lines, delayed the compound on a large enemy force, destroyed the railroad tracks, delaying the transfer of the Nazi troops on the front. In addition, the raid had a great influence on the development of guerrilla warfare in the western regions of Ukraine to the armed struggle against the enemy up thousands more patriots. In kazom Presidium of the Supreme Soviet on January 4, 1944 for the successful implementation of the Carpathian raid, Major-General Kovpak Sidor Artemievich awarded a second Medulla "Gold Star" (№ 16). In December 1943, SA Kovpak due to illness returned to Kyiv to treatment. February 23, 1944 the compound was transformed into the 1st Ukrainian partisan division twice named Hero of the Soviet Union SA Kovpak. Under the command of PP Vershigora she made two more raids on the enemy's rear in the western regions of Ukraine and Belarus, as well as in Poland. Since 1944, SA Kovpak - a member of the Supreme Court of the Ukrainian SSR in 1947 - Deputy Chairman of the Presidium since 1967 - Member of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Ukrainian SSR. Member of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR 2-7-th convocation. He lived in Kiev. Died December 11, 1967. He was buried at a cemetery in Kiev Baikove. He was awarded four Orders of Lenin (18/05/1942, 23/01/1948, 05/25/1957, 05/25/1967), Order of Red Banner (24/12/1942), Suvorov, 1st Class (05/02/1945), Bogdan Khmelnitsky 1st Class (08/07/1944), medals, awards Russian - crosses of St. George 3rd and 4th degrees, St. George medal "For Courage" 3rd and 4th degrees, orders and medals of Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia . A bronze bust of twice Hero of the Soviet Union Kovpak SA installed in the urban settlement Kotel'va Poltava region, monuments - in Kiev, Putivl. Plaques are visible: in Kiev at the house where he lived, in Putivl on the houses where he lived and worked. Hero of the street name mentioned in many towns and villages. In 1971, the city of Sumy region Glukhov (Ukraine) is a museum twice Hero of the Soviet Union SA Kovpak
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