christerd Posted June 10, 2013 Author Posted June 10, 2013 Thanks TacHel and Chrisophe , I don¨t think there where any official cases for these crosses , the only one I´ve seen has been German ones probably bought private. It is strange since the Order of White Rose have original cases and also Order of the LIon but not this one ? Christer
Kameli Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Christer, I just notice this thread and I have to say that You have a truly wonderful collection! One detail: Your posts #51 and #52 "Benignitates humane Finlandia memor": It is a Finnish medal, not Swedish. Regards, Jussi-Pekka
christerd Posted July 21, 2013 Author Posted July 21, 2013 Christer, I just notice this thread and I have to say that You have a truly wonderful collection! One detail: Your posts #51 and #52 "Benignitates humane Finlandia memor": It is a Finnish medal, not Swedish. Regards, Jussi-Pekka Aha , Thanks Jussi-Pekka , I always thought it was a Swedish one . Getting hard to find any Finnish Orders in Sweden now ..... and ribbon bars is nowhere to see Christer
Guest Rick Research Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 I have some... you mean they're all gone there?
alan_g Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 My small but pretty contribution... German ribbon bar with Finnish awards.
christerd Posted August 10, 2013 Author Posted August 10, 2013 Very Nice Alan !! It looks like he had Finnish Lion Order Commander , White Rose Commander and Liberty Cross 2nd class or first ? very unusual button on the ribbonbar and last the Civil Guard Cross I will look through my lists , but he has no 1918 medal so I think of an Staff officer in Finland 1941-44 , Gebirgs jäger ?? Christer
alan_g Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Hi Christer, I think all the Rosettes represent "commander grade" awards. Order of the Lion of Finland Commander 1st Class Finnish order of the White Rose 1st Class Commander (Knight) Order of the Cross of Liberty Commander Grade. Finnish Civil Guard Merit Cross. I thought Gebirgsjaeger too. I couldn't find an exact match on the German awards though.
christerd Posted August 12, 2013 Author Posted August 12, 2013 Hm , the Liberty Cross must represent a first class 1941 , I have seen this kind of ribbon bar before but very unusual. . I belive 72 Germans was awarded the LC 1 1941, included 9 from Kriegs Marine . I dont think he was KM so 63 left I will look and see if I can find a match Christer
Peter J Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 "Order of the Lion of Finland Commander 1st Class Finnish order of the White Rose 1st Class Commander" Alan, I believe this is correct, given the gold-silver stripe in addition to the rosettes. I'm not sure about the Liberty Cross though, as there was no breat-star in addition to this class (the Mannerheimbeing a class of its own) and the 2nd class being worn on the breast.
christerd Posted August 14, 2013 Author Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) There was really a breast star to the first class but its extreme rare Only 11 Germans got the Liberty Cross with Swords and Breast star 1941 ..... Ernst Busch He had other Decorations Wilhelm Canaris Had other Decorations Waldemar Erfurth Had other Decorations Kurt Fricke Had other Decorations Rudolf Gercke No Match Hans Jeschonnek Had Romanian Awards Alfred Jodl No Match Günther Korten No Match Georg Lindemann No Match Felix Steiner No Match Kurt Zeitzler No Match But it is not " normal" to have a neck order on a ribbon bar , but since the owner was German maybe he did a " Weimar" Christer Edited August 15, 2013 by christerd
alan_g Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 The only person I could find with several matching German awards was Generalleutnant Krakow. Gebirgsjaeger. Knight’s Cross of the Iron Cross: 21 June 1941, Oberst, Commander of Gebirgsjäger-Regiment 85. Prussian Iron Cross, 1st Class (1914): 18 May 1918. Prussian Iron Cross, 2nd Class (1914): 17 June 1917. 1939 Bar to the Prussian Iron Cross, 1st Class: 25 June 1940. 1939 Bar to the Prussian Iron Cross, 2nd Class: 12 June 1940. Bavarian Military Merit Cross, 2nd Class with Swords: 25 June 1917. Cross of Honor for Combatants 1914-1918 Armed Forces Long Service Award, 1st Class (25-year Service Cross) Armed Forces Long Service Award, 3rd Class (12-year Service Medal) Commemorative Medal of 13 March 1938 Austrian Military Merit Cross, 3rd Class with War Decoration: 2 May 1918. Wound Badge in Black – World War I award: 10 June 1918. “KRETA” Campaign Cuff-Title Finnish Order of the Cross of Liberty, 1st Class with Swords: 15 May 1943. Saber of Honor for good shooting with the heavy machinegun: 21 November 1933. I am aware that some Generals "dressed down" their ribbon bars, not to include long service awards and other state awards, an example of this for instance would be General Hans Krebs, but there are many other examples out there. Austrian Military Merit Cross, 3rd Class with War Decoration: 2 May 1918. It makes sense that if he was awarded this medal, he would also wear the 1938 Austro-Hungarian Commemorative medal. As for the Ernestine Haus Order and Finnish awards, I cannot find a match...
christerd Posted October 10, 2015 Author Posted October 10, 2015 A new addition to my collection of Finish awards Finnish Cross of Liberty 2nd class 1939 , onlly 167 awarded so quite scarce
Hans N Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 Nice catch Christer! You got it way too cheap IMHO.I managed to snatch the 41 with oaks
christerd Posted October 12, 2015 Author Posted October 12, 2015 Thank you Hans ,Yes I was suprised that It did´nt get higher And very nice oakleaves cross , not easy to find . Two rarities for sale on the same day 2015 is a good yearChrister
christerd Posted October 12, 2015 Author Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) And 2015 is a great year for collectors of Finnish awards ( if you have enough Gold....)Here are some real nice Finnish Orders , all sold this year at Künker Auctions in GermanyPrices ?? 650 Euro for the cheapest one and 11 000 Euro !! for the most expensive. I couldn't sleep for two days after seeing what I missed Christer Edited October 12, 2015 by christerd to big pics
sadolch Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 Christerd, Great collection ,Thanks for sharing all the information about this wonderful organisation...here is my contribution. A document and (2) medals....medal on right came with document.. Dave
christerd Posted June 19, 2017 Author Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, sadolch said: Christerd, Great collection ,Thanks for sharing all the information about this wonderful organisation...here is my contribution. A document and (2) medals....medal on right came with document.. Dave Very nice Dave ! I think there was about 2600 awarded of this medal ! But I think the document is even rarer , I have not seen more than a couple during the years . Christer
FRE_A_K Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Lotta Svärd was disbanded on 23 November 1944. Lots of medals and crosses were awarded during the last days. - Vili
sadolch Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Vili,. Thanks for the info,,this mini medal arrived today from Great Britain & next week i hope will be the Svard armband...note suspension ring is soldered to medal ring ...ribbons do not glow under black light. Dave Edited June 21, 2017 by sadolch added new info
sadolch Posted June 27, 2017 Posted June 27, 2017 Arrived on time today,this will now complete my small Lotta Svard collection. Dave
Roman Slivin Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 On 10.10.2015 at 16:05, christerd said: A new addition to my collection of Finish awards Finnish Cross of Liberty 2nd class 1939 , onlly 167 awarded so quite scarce https://www.ebay.com/itm/F4-FINLAND-Finnish-Cross-of-Liberty-2nd-class-1939-onlly-167-awarded/302502229577?hash=item466e89b649:g:HaQAAOSwI8lZ8hP6
christerd Posted October 29, 2017 Author Posted October 29, 2017 Wow , only 165 left to find Baragin price for the moment ..... christer
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