Prussia Questions about Original Parade/Court Mounts for Prussian 1813/14 Medals

[jshorter]

Hello everyone,

I only collect Imperial German orders and medals that are on original parade/court mounts (traditional mounting styles to a particular German State or Kingdom). One area that I don't have too much expertise in is those original mountings from the early 1800's. I was hoping someone could show me some original mountings for those Prussian medals from that time period, specifically the Prussian Campaign Medal for 1813-1814 (Kriegs-Denkmünze für 1813-1814).

Thank you,

Jason

[saschaw]

Medal bars were not actually usual until ca. mid 19th century. What you'll find earlier is - in best case - a piece of cardboard or so. Most wore just the awards on their ribons.

[jshorter]

Saschaw,

Thank you very much! I did not know this. I guess my follow up question would be:

• Would one ever find a Prussian Campaign Medal for 1813-1814, with an original ribbon, in a tri-fold (as in the Saxon or Austrian) style?
  

I have found a medal that I am interested in purchasing, and it is on a home made trifold ribbon that appears to be original to the period, or at least a VERY old replacement. I am just wondering if this would be something that one would have traditionally been encountered for medals from that time?

Thank you again, and best regards,

Jason

[Ulsterman]

I have never seen a trapazoid mount in photos for Napoleonic vets- but i suspect they existed as they ere easier to wear and seem to be shown in contemporary prints.

[Beau Newman]

I've posted this before but, here is an 1860's era mounting on a narrow bar:

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2012/post-6181-0-11480600-1325776413.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2012/post-6181-0-24532600-1325776443.jpg

Edited January 5, 2012 by Beau Newman

[Komtur]

This one seems to be original and before 1854.

Regards, Komtur.

[Komtur]

Here is one of these very early and simple constructions to be seen on a portrait.

Regards, Komtur.

[VtwinVince]

Great photos, Komtur. What is the 'Greise' wearing at the end of his Spange?

[Komtur]

... What is the 'Greise' wearing at the end of his Spange?

I can not really recognize it, but it would be logical, if this is the 1863 commemorial medal.

Regards, Komtur.

Edited January 6, 2012 by Komtur

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[VtwinVince]

Rudi, that is a real stunner of a mini. I never tire of seeing that one. Spitzenklasse.

[saschaw]

I can not really recognize it, but it would be logical, if this is the 1863 commemorial medal.

I think that was what we agreed it to be the last time, and I still think it's right.

[Wild Card]

Gentlemen,

Here are a couple of bars which might fit in this thread. The first is rather straightforward...

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but frankly, the reverse says to me that it is a rather late piece.

[Wild Card]

The second is a bit of a mess. We have -

1. 1813 EK mounted in reverse

2. Prussian 1813-14 campaign medal

3. Prussian 1813-15 commemorative medal (1863)

4. Prussian 25 year long service cross

5. Prussian/Hohenzollern 1848-49 medal for combatants

6. Russian medal for the capture of Paris

[Wild Card]

So, we know that this bar goes no earlier than 1863, and the reverse does put it in that era.

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[CRBeery]

[Komtur]