My Precious....

[Chris Boonzaier]

Wow!!! The officer who signed your Grandfathers pass in the 12th Company was the guy who wore my ring!!!!!! And one of the highest decorated Germans ever.... but a real bastard.

[Chris Boonzaier]

Sigh...........

[Chris Boonzaier]

[dond]

Congrats on the pick up. Nice finds for sure.

[The Prussian]

Are there any numbers inside, Chris?

[Chris Boonzaier]

20 minutes ago, The Prussian said:

Are there any numbers inside, Chris?

Hi,

 

684 and 868.

There was an unnumbered one on ebay some time ago which I stupidly assumed was fake, but in retrospect was very probably OK.

[waldo]

I would like to come back to Ferdinand Schörner. At the end he lived impoverished in a nursing home 
in Munich / Nymphenburg. I knew a postman from my neighborhood who always brought him the mail. 
After Schörners death, his son inherited everything. Whether there was really anything that was 
auctioned at the auction house, came from his direct possession / heritage, I doubt it.
Every time a known name comes into play, it capitalizes on it. Some awards often appear 
several times in different ways. 

As already mentioned in a post, the principle still applies, buy only the medal and not the story. Was 
Schörner's Medal Bar really worth the money?.... I dont know, but i have a guess. 

Best regards Walter

Edited December 2, 2017 by waldo

[Chris Boonzaier]

2 hours ago, waldo said:

I would like to come back to Ferdinand Schörner. At the end he lived impoverished in a nursing home 
in Munich / Nymphenburg. I knew a postman from my neighborhood who always brought him the mail. 
After Schörners death, his son inherited everything. Whether there was really anything that was 
auctioned at the auction house, came from his direct possession / heritage, I doubt it.
Every time a known name comes into play, it capitalizes on it. Some awards often appear 
several times in different ways. . 

As already mentioned in a post, the principle still applies, buy only the medal and not the story. Was 
Schörner's Medal Bar really worth the money?.... I dont know, but i have a guess. 

Best regards Walter

Hi,

I know the collector who had the Schörner Group directly from the Son, it was in his collection for quite some time. He kept it all together and the group was supposed to go as a lot to a collector in the USA, when that deal did not go through it landed up in the auction house, some of the group was placed in a major collection during the negotiations, what the buyer did not want landed up on the auction. The collector who owned it surmises the major parts sold directly may have landed up in the USA as the stuff that ended up on the auction was the kind of stuff that the average major US Collector would not be interested in. i.e. the "Bling" went, and the documents etc did not.

I am a supporter of healthy skepticism, but having known about the group before it went onto the open market I have no problem with the pieces that came up for auction.

Best

Chris

 

[waldo]

 

[Chris Boonzaier]

Here is an interesting study as they came from the foundry... they would then go to the jeweler to be sized, bent and soldered as a complete ring.....

[Chris Boonzaier]

A chance find today.... I bought the photo Album of a Bavarian Nurse. Most of the photos are of Soldiers she met at the hospital, but a few are from her brother.... A bit of research shows he was in the 2nd schneeschuh Battalion, then transfered to the Leib Regiment in July 1916... and in the end he was a Lt d.R. and Officers Leiberring recipient..... Unfortunately no Leib Regiment photos of him in the album....

[Chris Boonzaier]

Just a note.... my article on the Leiberring was published in the current edition of Iron Cross magazine.... please check out the Iron Cross Club for further info...

 

[Chris Boonzaier]

Wow.... it was a loooong search..... I finally found a pic of a leiberring being worn... this photo must have been just after the end of the war with the reservisten sticks...... the >NCO on the right was in the regiment at least from 1915.... and on his right hand.....

[91-old-inf-reg]

Truly, never cease to amaze Chris, truly amazing. I think this is the embodiment of "if there's a will, there's a way"

[Eric Stahlhut]

what do you think the gent on the left could be wearing on his right pinky finger? looks like by his pose, he meant to show it off as well

[Chris Boonzaier]

8 hours ago, Eric Stahlhut said:

what do you think the gent on the left could be wearing on his right pinky finger? looks like by his pose, he meant to show it off as well

Indeed... it is smaller than the Leiberring, and not possible to identify unfortunately... he has no edelweiss, so not really one of the "old Guard"... maybe he did not have the 24 months at the front, ot this pic was taken before the last round of awards where he may have gotten one...