Ribbon Bar of a Prussian Officer

[Nicolas7507]

Hello all,

I would like to show you this ribbon bar, which I have in my collection for quite some time now, as I am still thinking there is a chance for identification.

The second to last ribbon could be an OV or OK2, in my opinion.

Best regards,

Nicolas

[P.F.]

Hi Nicolas,

Did you not already ID this one using the 1913 RL?

Kind regards,
Pierce

[ixhs]

I think OK2

[Nicolas7507]

On 27/10/2019 at 17:25, P.F. said:

Hi Nicolas,

Did you not already ID this one using the 1913 RL?

Kind regards,
Pierce

Hi Pierce, 

I tried it a while ago, but the guy didn't fit.

One suspect, who was found by Dave,  was Generalleutnant August von Geyso. He fits perfectly, except that he got an HEK2b. Maybe he chose to not wear it on his ribbon bar?

 

Best regards

Nicolas

[P.F.]

14 hours ago, Nicolas7507 said:

Hi Pierce, 

I tried it a while ago, but the guy didn't fit.

One suspect, who was found by Dave,  was Generalleutnant August von Geyso. He fits perfectly, except that he got an HEK2b. Maybe he chose to not wear it on his ribbon bar?

 

Best regards

Nicolas

Hi Nicolas,

It is possible he didn't put it on the bar, but why leave one decoration off.

Also, it is hard to know what the Oldenburg ribbon represents. The bar appears to be mounted in Prussian fashion so other States' etc., awards would come after. Just something to consider.

Kind regards,
Pierce

[webr55]

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Edited November 4, 2019 by webr55

[Nicolas7507]

Hi,

here is an excerpt from the Reichswehr-Rangliste and a picture of him (ca.1913) :

[ccj]

Was he awarded a higher grade of the hohenzollern by the time he was awarded the EK2?
 

Was he a major or colonel in the photo posted?
 

[Nicolas7507]

47 minutes ago, ccj said:

Was he awarded a higher grade of the hohenzollern by the time he was awarded the EK2?
 

Was he a major or colonel in the photo posted?
 

He is a Colonel in this particular photo. I sadly don't know, if he was awarded the HEK2a later on.

[Daniel Krause]

He was not...

At least not according the quite well managed  princely Hohenzollern award rolls.

 

Best,

Daniel 

[ccj]

I wonder why he would choose to no longer where the Hohenzollern? 

[Daniel Krause]

because it is not Geyso's bar.

We concentrate here on the hint, that the Oldenburg ribbon is a House Order, not the Friedrich-August-cross.

 

Another perfect candidate would be Generaloberveterinär Emil Mohr, 1862-1922

he had RAO4, KO4, EK, DA, OK1 and ÖEK3

 

Best,

Daniel

[Nicolas7507]

Thank you, Daniel. That sounds excellent! Finally one of my first ribbon bars got a name

I could find three pictures of Mohr, online:

Bild 1: Unter-Roßarzt Emil Mohr beim Ulanen-Regiment Nr. 2 um 1890/91.

Bild 2: Als (Unter-?) Roßarzt beim Westf. Husaren-Regiment Nr. 11 in Crefeld um 1892.

Bild 3: Als Stabs-Veterinär bei dem oben genannten Husaren-Regiment um 1912.

The last photo shows him with his pre-war medal bar with RAO4, KO4, DA and Centenary Medal.

Am I correct that General-Oberveterinär is similiar to Oberstleutnant rankwise?

Best regards,

Nicolas

Edited November 4, 2019 by Nicolas7507

[Daniel Krause]

Nicolas,

 

yes Sir!

Generaloberveterinär is equivalent to LtCol.

 

Generalveterinär would be a full colonel, even if Generalveterinär sounds "smaller" than GeneralOBERveterinär :-)

Ans as far as I know there was only ONE Generalveterinär with the personal Rank of MajGen - that was GenVet Heinrich Schlake.

 

Best,

Daniel

[Nicolas7507]

Thanks! Yes, it is a bit confusing ?

[Glenn J]

Nicolas,

Emil Mohr pictured as an Oberstabsveterinär (Major) before his 22 July 1919 brevet promotion (charakterisierung) as a Generaloberveterinär)

Regards

Glenn

 

[Nicolas7507]

Glenn,

That is an amazing photo. Thank you so much!

The placement of the OK2 on his medal bar is different than on my ribbon bar. Not a problem, I hope?

Best regards,

Nicolas