Claudio Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Dear forumites, My brother lately acquired a very nice high officer's portrait in oil colours under glass (therefore the reflection on the picture, sorry!). which still has the original frame. As you can see this high officer is wearing a EK1 1914 and a medal bar composed by the following orders and medals: Kingdom of Bavaria, BMVO3 mit Krone und Schwerter Kingdom of Prussia, EK2 1914 KuK Austria-Hungary (?), goldene Tapferkeitsmedaille (?) Free City of Hamburg (?), Hanseatenkreuz Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, war cross 2nd class Kingdom of Saxony, AO1X Kingdom of Bavaria, DA 25 Jahre Kingdom of Prussia, Zentenarmedaille KuK Austria-Hungary, MVK3 Is an identification of this highly decorated officer possible? Thank you in advance for your most appreciated inputs and comments. Cordially, Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentius Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Lovely painting Claudio, although I think the hanseatic cross is from Bremen rather than Hamburg. A Bavarian with several orders and a zentenarenmedaille should be easy to identify. Fingers crossed. Kind regards, Laurentius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spolei Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) Hello, third place won't be a foreign order like austrian. Possibly Jubiläumsmedaille bavaria. At the 4th is a Hausorden of Hohenzollern, 5th a hanseatic award. Edited June 22, 2020 by spolei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, spolei said: Hello, third place won't be a foreign order like austrian. Possibly Jubiläumsmedaille bavaria. At the 4th is a Hausorden of Hohenzollern, 5th a hanseatic award. IMHO the third medal, although foreign, is a bravery medal... what else could that be with a red-white ribbon and a large gold-like medal? Maybe this one https://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/deutsche-staaten/st-georgs-medaille-jubilaumsmedaille-1889.html? However in order to be in the exclusive Bavarian order of St. George, you had to prove that your lineage is noble since 8 generations... ? In that case I think this officer he would have his "Familenwappen" (coat of arms) painted on the upper corner, wouldn't he? Edited June 22, 2020 by Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Krause Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Goodness, Claudio... Thats the normal jubilee medal which EVERY active Officer got... The painter was not overly careful. I am very sure, no bavarian would leave away his homeland jubilee medal but wear a foreign centenary medal. Best, Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 45 minutes ago, Daniel Krause said: Goodness, Claudio... Thats the normal jubilee medal which EVERY active Officer got... The painter was not overly careful. I am very sure, no bavarian would leave away his homeland jubilee medal but wear a foreign centenary medal. Best, Daniel Thanks Daniel! ?? I thought about that, but as you rightly said it wasn’t really painted very well... cheers Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1812 Overture Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I also think this is the Lut Pod Jubilee Medal in Bavaria. Watching the front portrait of the character, it looks to the left and the officer has also served in Bavaria for 25 years. He has no reason not to win the Jubilee Medal. I think the fourth trophy is Lufthansa Bremen. PS, why doesn't your brother come to the forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 hours ago, 1812 Overture said: I also think this is the Lut Pod Jubilee Medal in Bavaria. Watching the front portrait of the character, it looks to the left and the officer has also served in Bavaria for 25 years. He has no reason not to win the Jubilee Medal. I think the fourth trophy is Lufthansa Bremen. PS, why doesn't your brother come to the forum? You meant Hanseatenkreuz Bremen... not Lufthansa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Difficult to be absolutely certain, but I think this chap may well be the then Major i.G. Eugen Trautmann. Regards Glenn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 Hi Glenn! you might have found him... it looks like him, from the face and the medal bar... ??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Glenn J said: Difficult to be absolutely certain, but I think this chap may well be the then Major i.G. Eugen Trautmann. Regards Glenn The man portrayed in the paint wears what seems to be the uniform of a field officer in the General Staff . carmine piping on the collar and front of the tunic,mattsilver buttons and the Double GS litzen on the collar . litzen of the so called Blumenmuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 16 hours ago, Bayern said: The man portrayed in the paint wears what seems to be the uniform of a field officer in the General Staff . carmine piping on the collar and front of the tunic,mattsilver buttons and the Double GS litzen on the collar . litzen of the so called Blumenmuster. That’s why he must be him... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Highly probable ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Claudio said: That’s why he must be him... ???? Morning Claudio, I think this is conclusive; from an extract of a Kriegs-Rangliste of III. Bavarian corps showing Major Trautmann's awards. From top to bottom: Bavarian Jubilee Medal BMVO3 with Crown and Swords Bavarian Long service Decoration (DA) 25 years Prussian Centenary Medal Prussian EK2 Prussian EK1 Prussian Hohenzollern House Order 3 with Swords Saxon Albrechts Order Knight 1st Class with Swords Hamburg Hanseatic Cross Austro-Hungarian Military Merit Cross 3rd Class Mecklenburg-Schwerin Military Merit Cross 2nd Class Regards Glenn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 Thank you so much, Glenn!!! ?? I thought that the Hanseatenkreuz not from Bremen but from Hamburg was... much more common and plus how could have been explained Major Trautmann's link to the much smaller Hansa free city of Bremen... Another identification and another name put to a face... Thanks again also from my brother's side, Glenn! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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