Order Of Duke Peter Friedrich Ludwig

[nubirus]

Hello!  I have several German orders in my collection, which are in doubt.  Can I count on help in determining authenticity?
 

[laurentius]

Dear Nubirus,

 

The Order of Peter Friedrich Ludwig was marked 'B. Knauer' untill the early twenties afterwhich they switched to 'Knauer'. If the B is missing one is dealing with a postwar-piece. Given the difference in quality between the B and Knauer I very much wonder if someone has been busy with a hammer and a screwdriver. I have some more doubts about the piece, but given the difficult nature of this order when it comes to the details I will await the opinion of more knowledgeable members.

 

Kind regards, Laurentius

[922F]

Kindly provide exact dimensions and weight    "B. KNAUER" indicia looks off.

[Graf]

It is sad however eMedals sold and is selling those fakes some time they are honest to say  " collector's copy"

[BlackcowboyBS]

I agree with Triad08, this one shown in the first post here is a modern copy produced long after WW2 and has nothing to do with the original awarded ones. 

[David M]

Apart from it being a fake (I dont know the first thing about that) I was just wondering economically, how profitable is it to produce such fakes. What the profit a faker makes. Or more precise: what are the productioncosts compared to a genuine piece?

[nubirus]

Thank you for your responses.  Now my doubts have taken hold.  I also have a large cross and a star of this order.  Please help with the definition.

1 minute ago, nubirus said:

Thank you for your responses.  Now my doubts have taken hold.  I also have a large cross and a star of this order.  Please help with the definition.

 

[VtwinVince]

I agree, and keep in mind that the various grades of this order, to include the merit crosses, have been extremely heavily and successfully faked in recent years.

[nubirus]

[Graf]

Hi David M,

 

Most  mass production fakers  make the  the crosses and the stars in big numbers and limited number of the specific  central medallions. I started a Topic on the Bulgarian Section regarding fakes

There have been fiew books how to detect fakes. The problem is that those fakers read them and inprove their products

Also many of them are made abroad with cheap materials and labour

Some of those items were sold bellow the market  value, some are distributed through Dealers and Auction Houses

The Good think is that since the Pandemic started those fakers are not as active