Stogieman

Beautiful, just beautiful.

I'd have to agree. I think the pieces are good, I've owned several OZL over the years. But I think the bar is a "put-together".

Hi Chris, impressive group!

Wonderful bars!

@ Komtur, Now that's anice bar! @ Dave Danner, thanks for all your tireless work trying to help everyone!

I like the original posted, stamped badge. I too think the cross is a bit short, but that might be the maker's interpretation. I think the pin, mark and catch are spot-on for this maker.I think the quality and detail is spot-on. I've only owned one original Bavarian badge, years ago. But it was a silver one, not a stamped one. These badges are extremely scarce and extreme care should be exercised when contemplating a purchase, Carsten Baldes would be a fine source, but I doubt he would sell one if he found one!

There's a lot about this badge I don't like. The detail is not there, I've never seen a cliché badge with a screw-back, excess material on the top of the badge, etc., etc. Unfortunately these badges are amongst the most faked Imperial German items around. Most people believe any stamped badge to be an actual issue piece. The silver ones were most likely all private purchase. I don't believe the stamped pieces were made post-war, other than by numerous fakers. There's no shortage of fake stamped Prussian pilot badges, observer badges and gunner badges, Hope this Helps, Rick

Nice bar, unusual combination!

Just beautiful, both of them!

Now that's a special bar, thanks for sharing!

One of the first pieces I ever acquired was an Albert, 2nd Class with swords. I thought it was so beautiful it fueled years of collecting Saxony.... congratulations!

Interesting bar and an interesting read. Thanks

Love that non-combatant group!

Welcome to the Forum. I'd leave them as-is.

I know I've been away for awhile but I find the prices listed on that site quite shocking.

Beautiful bar, anything St. Henry is wonderful to me.

Very nice photo, thanks!

Thank you so much for all the work and research!

still a nice bar with the Albert Order, not often seen.

I have not crawled the auction sites in years. That must have been some lot of bars!

Is that a sew-on bar? Or is it missing the pin? Thanks. Very nice bar.

Nice bar and nice research help. Way to go!

This is by far, one of the nicest, early Bavarian bars I have seen. Thanks for sharing this one!

Interesting mounting bar. I've had a couple of these over the years, with the raised edges on the ends, always a Bavarian. Never seen this type of mounting with one of the other German states. I wonder if they all came from one supplier....

Very interesting. I've never seen that miniature device before.