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    Glenn J

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    1. He is shown in the "Handbuch für das Deutsche Reich" 1918 with following: RAO4 KO3 EK2 LD2 The "Biographisches Handbuch des deutschen Auswärtigen Dienstes 1871-1945", Band 3 gives a 1.9.40 promotion to Major. d.R. Regards Glenn
    2. Good morning, He was promoted to Leutnant d.R. on 17.12.98 (Yy) and to Oberleutnant d.R. on 18.10.09. He left the reserves on 19 July 1913. Hauptmann d.R. a.D. on 9.11.14 whilst serving with the Stellvertrende Generalstab der Armee. Regards Glenn
    3. Feodor Grohe was born in Trier on 7 June 1872. He entered Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 113 from the cadet corps on 22 March 1893 as a Seconde-Lieutenant. He was employed as an instructor at the cadet institute at Plön from 27 January 1898 and transferred to the cadet institute at Oranienstein on 17 October 1899. He returned to his regiment on 27 January 1902 and was promoted to Oberleutnant on 22 April 1902. Promoted to Hauptmann and company commander on 17 September 1909 and received a patent as such on 27 January 1910. Promoted to Major on 18 April 1916. Retired as a charakter Oberstleutnant. Shown below in the 1934 edition of the list of the officers' association of IR 113 as an Oberstleutnant a.D. Regards Glenn
    4. Morning, Dr. Robert Holtzmann was commissioned as a Seconde-Lieutenant der Reserve in Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 143 on 21 April 1898 (Ll) and was promoted to Oberleutnant der Reserve on 27 January 1909. He transferred to Landwehr status in 1910/11 (Landwehrbezirk Straßburg). He left the Landwehr on 10 June 1913 with permission to wear the Landwehr army uniform. Recalled for service in WW1, he was promoted to Hauptmann der Landwehr a.D. on 26 October 1914. He served with Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 87 during the war. Regards Glenn
    5. He was under no obligation to serve in the 1866 campaign and his service in the wars of 1864 and 1870/71 was under the auspices of the Johanniter-Orden. He actually retired from the Landwehr on 8 September 1855. He received the Charakter of a Major a.D. on 18 October 1861. Regards Glenn
    6. A super portrait. The baron wears the uniform of the 7. Schwere-Landwehr-Reiter-Regiment, his former Landwehr cavalry unit. He left active military on 16 May 1844 when he retired from the Regiment Garde du Corps and went onto Landwehr service. Regards Glenn
    7. Fahnenjunker: 6.11.62 Portepee-Fähnrich: 10.7.63 Sekondeleutnant: 14.3.64 Premierleutnant: 24.11.70 Hauptmann: 25.5.76 (18.4.78 New Patent of 18.5.74) Regards Glenn
    8. Lukasz, I similarly checked the Prussian Ordensliste up to the last supplement in 1913. He had nothing from Prussia until then. The extract from Christian above would seem to rule out a 1913/1914 award. Regards Glenn
    9. He was awarded the RAO3 in 1815. This from the 1818 Handbuch über den Königlich Preussischen Hof und Staat. He was still listed in the 1825 Ordensliste with that sole Prussian award. The supplement to the 1928 Handbuch shows he was awarded the GSF2 that year. Regards Glenn
    10. His RAO3S and Légion d'Honneur as confirmed in the 1848 Handbuch über den Königlich Preussischen Hof und Staat. Regards Glenn
    11. A somewhat older General von Hutier in the company of Generals Rudolf von Horn and Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord. This from the Beeldbankwo2 site. Regards Glenn
    12. Chaps, I have some spare Prussian copies running from around 1866 to 1914 which I will part with at say £30 a pop plus postage. If anyone is interested please send me a pm. Regards Glenn
    13. Below are his listings in the 1902 Marine-Rangliste (his last) and the 1903 Bavarian Militär-Handbuch: KO4X: 28 May 1901 BMV4bX: 28 February 1902 OV3bX: 30 July 1902 He retired as an Oberleutnant on 6 January 1909 and was recalled for service in August 1914. Hauptmann on 13 April 1915 (4). Regards Glenn
    14. His entry in the "Offizier-Stammliste der Marine-Infanterie" 1904. As can be seen, prior to his Marine-Infanterie service, he was in the 9. Infanterie-Regiment. Regards Glenn
    15. Good morning, download from here: http://digital.wlb-stuttgart.de/sammlungen/sammlungsliste/werksansicht/?no_cache=1&tx_dlf[id]=13507&tx_dlf[page]=7&tx_dlf[double]=0&cHash=348e838f3b2b7c989994368cfa296331 Regards Glenn
    16. The last semi-official document that I can find him listed, is as the Band leader of the Leipzig based II./11. Infanterie-Regiment in 1928. Although clearly he became a Stabsmusikmeister in the Wehrmacht - Heer as evidenced by the portrait photograph above, interestingly, he was always listed as "Musikdirektor" Giltsch in the Leipzig address book even in the mid forties. Regards Glenn
    17. Below is an extract of a larger photograph that appeared in Kube's "Die Tradtion" edition no 32. It was taken on the occasion of the "Großer Zapfenstreich" of 29 August 1912 at Zeithain. Pictured standing in the centre is Obermusikmeister Karl Giltsch. He is flanked by Obermusikmeister Johann Capitain of Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 179 and Obermusikmeister Hermann Maßwig of Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 78. OMM Capitain appears to be still wearing the 1908 pattern boards. Regards Glenn
    18. If I may add some clarification to the subject of the Stabshoboist/Musikmeister. Herr Giltsch is wearing the pattern of uniform of a bandleader in use from 1898 to 1908. At that time the term "Musikmeister" was not in use. The band leaders were titled according to the arm of service to which they were attached: Stabshoboist: Infantry/foot artillery Stabshornist: Jäger/Schützen/pionier Stabstrompeter: Cavalry/field artillery/train. All had shoulder boards in the regimental shoulder strap colour. During this period, senior bandleaders could be further accorded the rank/title of a Militär-Musik-Dirigent and those even more senior, to that of a Königlicher Musik-Direktor. The first was distinguished by an extra interwoven row of gold or silver braid in the centre of the shoulder board. The latter had additionally an outer border of the same braid. Following the cabinet order of 10 December 1908, the titles Musikmeister and Obermusikmeister were introduced. The NCO collar and cuff lace were abolished and a more quasi officer style uniform was introduced. New straps similar to those worn by wartime Offizierstellvertreter were brought into use with the Obermusikmeister wearing an additional 4mm golden braid in the centre of the board. The former bandleaders in the rank of Stabshoboist etc. were titled Musikmeister and the former Dirigents and Direktors were accorded the insignia of an Obermusikmeister. No further appointments were made to the rank of Dirigent and the title fell into disuse, although further promotions to Direktor continued. Karl Giltsch held the rank of Stabshornist at the time of this photograph. Promoted to that rank on 1 April 1900, he was appointed Stabshoboist of Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 107 on 1 April 1901. Following the Prussian cabinet order of December 1908, the Saxon army followed suit with effect 5 January 1909 and Stabshoboist Giltsch accordingly became Musikmeister Giltsch. He was promoted to Obermusikmeister on 22 April 1911 and awarded the title of Königlicher Musik-Direktor on 21 May 1914. It should be noted that a final insignia change took place per orders 26/29 May 1912 (10 July in Saxony) and shoulder boards not dissimilar to the 1898 pattern were reintroduced albeit all in the colour red with the Obermusikmeister being further distinguished by an interwoven centre braid. Regards Glenn
    19. The answer is provided by his entry in the Bavarian “Militär-Handbuch”. Regards Glenn
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