Alex K

Hi thanks, look forward to seeing it Regards

I have tried to take a photo of my prinzen, hope these help, very difficult to see but it is heavily gilded, and yes it wasn't cheap Alex

Nice, looking for one myself

Can't access the site With regards to the one posted, looks like a good period piece, official or not, they certainly existed

It's certainly a nice place to keep your banana's ?

Hi Wild Card, thanks an amazing looking cross, never seen it before, I have an 1870 sanitatsverdienstkreuz in my collection, pretty boring compared to this though Regards alex?

The suspension device on the last medal suggests typical japanese

Yes correct , I can't count ??

3rd China denkmunze, 4th centenary medal

OK Thanks, One word... Superb example

Interesting, do you by any chance have the medal, if so could you post an image? Thanks

Hi all, nice nice information it was an early reward by the looks of it Regards

Can't help much but yes, under the kc is the Hungarian order of merit

That is seriously nice, the crown order is one of my favourites

The lower arm is stamped with a W which suggests it was made by Wagner

interesting, I have this version on file, perhaps a royal version

Hi, mystery owner solved, I hope you don't mind me borrowing your image, I, like many others see an image and download unfortunately in those days sources were not normally recorded, after a while you forget, yes I noticed on your example the central disc shadow and thought the same as you, on my example and the unknown dealers example, the reverses have a mirror shiny finish, (if you can see thru the patina) I can only assume on those that the disc shadow was heavily buffed out before the hinge and clasp additions were attached, these themselves may have been actually pre-assembled components I'm begining to think, so not repairs in the literal sense. Yep, catalogues were really fun in those days ? Regards alex

Hi all, I’ve been reading about double marked variants and have become slightly intrigued, so thought I would add my bit, I don’t know if it fits in but will ask. I’ve had this EK1 since the early 80’s, (April 1984 to be precise). It was back in the day when your dealer’s catalogue arrived in the post, and the contents for sale were written descriptions, (no images!) so it was pot luck. I still recall that this piece was described as “Officers Cross, very high quality, mint condition”, based on that I took the plunge and paid my 30 GBP. Upon arrival I eagerly opened the package and out it came, in my opinion, description was spot on, attached What surprised me apart from the quality, were the “re-inforcement bars” to which the hinge and clasp were attached and the double marking, cross and hinge were stamped 800 (Silver), Years later I posted it on several forums (including GMIC) and it was suggested that the re-inforcement was a repair, which seemed odd to me as I personally would say that the cross never saw a uniform and may never have been out of it’s case, so why repair an unused cross? I started to search the net (as you do) and over the years found several other examples identical to mine, to my eyes, same frame, same core, same hardware, and same quality of manufacture, mine is amazing quality which the images don’t quite show, (Crosses were repaired this way) but if these are repairs then every repair is identical, and all on identical crosses, attached are two I retained the images, the “Dealer” one, the dealer also talked about the amazing quality any comments welcome regards Alex

Hi I have these images on file if it helps any, no longer remember the source though regards Alex K

Interesting and thank you, I'm sure your information is greatly appreciated, at least those interested in obtaining one have one item which can be used to eliminate those which are clearly not correct Regards

Bit of a pointless thread then

Very nice, looking for a quality screwback myself Alex k

Hi, just spotted this, looks like a nice original piece, can't comment on the ribbon, it doesn't look that aged but may have been replaced a long time ago, wouldn't mind one for myself Regards

Looks perfectly good to me

I think it's because they cater for a niche market, (not everyone is interested in iron crosses or similar) so the print run is limited, cost of production etc has to be spread over a relatively limited sales, add to that antiquated books may well be inflated due to scarcity, my thoughts Regards alex