Hauptmann Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Hi Richard,Welcome to the club! Great pieces... I especially love the obverse design. There's alot going on there but it doesn't come across as cluttered. Very nice! How hard would it be to find one of these? And in what kind of range if you don't mind me asking? This would definitely be one I'd love to add to the pile one of these days.Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 nice 1969 -you NEVER see these. Ever seen any docs to any recipients? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 (edited) Never even seen a document to a 59'er... It took me three years to find my 69'. Probably most of these documents are now under a playground that was a landfill. Edited January 21, 2007 by hunyadi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Dear Hauptman,thank you for your welcome. I saw this medals in the 1959 style only a several times in Hungary. The 1969 style I saw only one time. The price was in the past not the problem (before 2004), less then $ 50 in Hungary. A document and an etui I have never seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) Well, heres' hoping.... stuff is showing up..slowly...slowly....Here's a "Distinguished Blood Donor" medal which I presume is pre-1989 by the Communist symbols and by the painted enamel work-probably from the 1980s. I've been in contact with the Hungarian Red Cross, who seem to be reluctant to talk about the pre 1989 awards, but they still give out medals for blood donors (and donations)...so Gordon, Decker and Hunyadi...an opportunity awaits to flesh out that medal bar.... The scan of this is not so great because the medal is slightly concave, with an impressed enamel surface over a brass backing and a raised, really well done, red cross emblem in the center of the star. I presume this was awarded for a significant number of blood donations. Nowadays-one donation gets you a lapel pin, but give 25 times and you start up the ladder of medal awards.The banner above the star says: " Kivalo Verdano" or "excellent donor". Edited January 26, 2007 by Ulsterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Ulsterman,Here is your medal in the case. Since it is a civilian award it is in a blue case. I am afraid it will be some time before I/we get to Blood Donor medals. Both of us have a number of projects in the works. Sounds like an interesting challenge though!Regards,Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) Blue cases are civilian awards? So red cases denote state awards?Man-you guys are going to be the Kings of Hungarian medal knowledge. Edited January 26, 2007 by Ulsterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) Kings - well more like Court Jesters - I sent you this in an email Jeff - didnt know if you got it but here is what I got from the book...Excelent Blood Donner - Kivalo VeradoBronze class 10 donations, Silver 15, Gold 20. Every year there were about 1300 gold ,about 2500 silver and 10,000 bronze distributed. Bronze came with 500ft prize, Silver 1000 ft and gold 1500 ft. After 30 blood donations the ribbon was switched to a green color and this was awarded to about 400 people per year. after 40 a blue ribbon (about 100 people per year) and 50 a yellow ribbon (about 50 people per year were awarded.) No mention as to when the award was created or what color the ribbon was for the Bronze, Silver and Gold class below 20 donations (? - perhaps it was only a badge??). Excelent Blood Donor Technician Badge - Kivalo VeradoszervezoFor service in the field of the Red Cross as a worker in the blood donation centers and activities. The badge was awarded after five years of service. The badge was insituted in 1975. Execlent Work in the Red Cross Badge - Voroskeresztes MunkaertGold, Silver and Bronze classes. Awarded by the Leadeship Council of the Hungarian Red Cross for exemplarary serivce in the Hungarian Red Cross. Bronze class awarded after 5 years of serivce and cmae with a 1500 huf award and was awarded to about 250 people per year. Silver class for 10 years of serivce, a 2000 huf award and about 150 individuals per year. Gold class was for more than 10 years of service, but could also be bestowed for a certain meritiorious work. Came with a 3000 huf bonus and about 120 people were awarded per year. Excelent Red Cross Workers Badge - Voroskereszt Kivalo DolgozojaAwarded by the Leadership Council of the Hungarian Red Cross for distinguised work over a period of time concering the technical operations of the Red Cross (machines, equipment, etc...) The award was bestowed about 10 times per year and the recipient received a 1500 huf bonus.As for cases - Red and Deep Wine Red (Order of Labor, Order of Hungarian Freedom, and April 4th Order) for state awards. Blue and Gray are seen for Red Cross and Firemans awards. For the commemorative Red Cross awards (100 years in Hungary for example) these came in a sand brown case. Edited January 26, 2007 by hunyadi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Yup-got the email and it's in the file (By the way-VERY excited at the "secret project" research)...I thought I'd add this as the other blood donor medals seem to have cloth ribbons, a lamp and a droplet (that's also what the red cross sent me in their email).I have seen all three ribbon typed medals on ebay (and lost a set last month to a red cross collector)-mostly sold out of the UK for some reason.This one I don't know-bronze class? earlier type as it clearly has the communist symbols within the design of the piece?The Red Cross are going to send me photos of the awards and when, if ever, the medal was redesigned.I really envy you guys-it's a whole new world out there, with records intact-just waiting to be looked through-sigh- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Taking a stab at it - I think its a gold class with the blue ribbon for 40+ donations. Will see what else I can stir up on these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Taking a stab at it - I think its a gold class with the blue ribbon for 40+ donations. Will see what else I can stir up on these.By the way- i got this last month-a small doc. for the Restoration of Workers and Peasants' Rule medal:but any idea s to what the abbreviation title at the right hand side, "fhdgy" means? Thanks! Ulster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 A very lucky find indeed! That is the third one I have seen now...FHDGY is Fohadnagy - or 1st Lieutenant. Very Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) Gents,Here is a picture of the Commemorative 1959 medals in its case with the miniature device for attaching to the ribbon. In the Large Medals book it says there is no miniature for the ribbon. However, in a newer book written by Kenyeres Denes it shows both the 59 and the 69 medal with the miniature attached to the ribbon.Regards,Gordon Edited January 27, 2007 by Gordon Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Gaszewski Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) One of the saddest Hungarian medals. It was awarded to those who took active part in suppression of the Hungarian Rising of 1956.credit to OMSA medal database Edited January 27, 2007 by Lukasz Gaszewski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilja559 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Badge-??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) Star Order of the Hungarian People?s RepublicThe Star Order of the Hungarian People?s Republic was founded by law decree No. 18 in 1984 by the Presidential Concil of the Hungarian People?s Republic.The Star Order was awarded to acknowledge outstanding merit in the construction of socialismin, further in the field of political, economic an cultural life. Moreover in the service to defense the country, in safeguarding public order as well as in strengthening friendship among peoples, etc.The Star Order exists in three different forms. Each form is a seperat decoration and there are no differences between the degrees.The three types and the total sum of awards are:- Star Order of the Hungarian People?s Republic with gold wreath 178 awards- Star Order of the Hungarian People?s Republic with swords 74 awards- Star Order of the Hungarian People?s Republic 466 awards Because there were no socialist symbols on the order or on the ribbon, the order was transfered to a Republic?s decoration. The order was annulled by law No. XXXI in 1991.Source:- Nagy Magyar Kit?ntet?sk?nyv- Kit?ntet?sek a Magyar K?zt?rsas?gbanStar Order of the Hungarian People?s Republic with gold wreath, Obverse Edited January 28, 2007 by Richard S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Star Order of the Hungarian People?s Republic with gold wreath, Reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Star Order of the Hungarian People?s Republic, Observe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Star Order of the Hungarian People?s Republic, Reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Badge-???This is the Industrial Co-Operative Excellent Worker badge. Created and awarded by the National Council of Industrial Co-Op's (OKISZ). The Industrial Co-Operateive systems was mant to build coperation between industires and trades for grater profits and prodction. The purpose of the badge was to "better increase the function, encourage development, protect the acheivemtns of the old guard and the work of the Industrial Co-Operative" - all very patriotic wording. The badge was awarded after serving in direct relation with the Industrial Co-operation. The badge would be awardeda after five years of service. After the first badge was awarded the indivdual would be awarded the badge again after every five years of serivce. The badge carried with it a monetary award of 3000 HUF. The badge was insititued on Noveber 1st, 1957. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilja559 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Thanks Charles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Thanks Charles.Not a problem - can you post a photo of the bottom of the box and the reverse of the badge. It can help to determine if this is an early example or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilja559 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 IMHO - the badge is an early strike probably 1957 - 1960. THe case is a mid 60's at the earliest. Just a natural occurance where the badge sat in a bin awaiting a case for an porbably issued in the mid 60's to 1970's. Still a nice set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 cool-what do the later badges' backs look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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