Explorer Posted November 18, 2007 Posted November 18, 2007 Partisan Star 1st CL?I was told that this is a russian screw back made of gold and than converted by IKOM to pinback.Is it realy very rare new Variation or nice fake?Russian PS1 types that are converted to pinback in IKOM are valued the same as original screwback PS1 types (I'd even rather have a screwback type). The extremly rare types are with marks(!) IKOM on the rear side. Those are worth a fortune!
Explorer Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 Mine russian-made screwback PS1 arrived today. What a beauty!
Bryan Posted December 1, 2007 Author Posted December 1, 2007 It looks very nice! Am I right to say that this piece wasn't awarded?
Explorer Posted December 2, 2007 Posted December 2, 2007 Well, no. There were around 3000 Partisan Stars 1CL made and only 627 awarded. This doesn't mean that stars with numbers bigger then 627 were never awarded.
Bryan Posted December 3, 2007 Author Posted December 3, 2007 I didn't mean it by the number, but by the look of it. I do not see any trace of wear on it. It seems it was just out of the mint, because it is in pristine condition.
Bryan Posted December 3, 2007 Author Posted December 3, 2007 If a veteran earned a Partisan Star 1st Class and never worn it, I guess he would have been not so proud to have received that order. Anyway, your star is very nice even if worn or not worn.
orden_master Posted December 3, 2007 Posted December 3, 2007 Hi Bryanits a odd storry with ALL Yugoslavian orders which have been numbered. The consitency in the numbering was not upheld very much. The same with the numbering in documents. As evrything was "federalistic" I think that there have been too many cooks cooking togheter and there was not only one issuing authority. Ther was only one aproving authority and the rest was bureaucracy and paperwork.The result was that with the years passing by almost all orders lost their numbering and the awarding was on almost all orders without numbers (on the items).Best regardsMilanIf a veteran earned a Partisan Star 1st Class and never worn it, I guess he would have been not so proud to have received that order. Anyway, your star is very nice even if worn or not worn.
new world Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 Is it rare to find documented partisan stars?You bet!During years of collecting Yugoslavian awards I've seen plenty of stars for sale (all classes), but just couple of documents.If you find any - I suggest you keep them.William
Ostfront Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 I think they are ultra rare. I haven't seen any for sale and I'm in the field for about 7 years.Is it rare to find documented partisan stars?
Bob Posted January 2, 2008 Posted January 2, 2008 Great, thanks.Just bought a star at an auction with accompanying document. Attached is scan (have to wait for the package to arrive so this is all I can show now)
SasaYU Posted January 3, 2008 Posted January 3, 2008 It is a certificate that lieutenant Makutin Aleksandar Nikiforovich (Russian lieutenant ?) was awarded with Order of the partisan star III No. 2394, wich was awarded to him on the April 30th 1945. Certificate was issued as a temporary decree on May 5th 1945.
Ostfront Posted January 3, 2008 Posted January 3, 2008 Nice one. Do the numbers on the doc&order match?
Bob Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 Nice one. Do the numbers on the doc&order match?yes - but will know for sure when i get it in mail
Ostfront Posted January 12, 2008 Posted January 12, 2008 (edited) The screwplate is hovewer not original to the medal. It should be the smaller type. It is very possible that the original owner changed them with the more popular larger soviet type. Edited January 12, 2008 by Ostfront
wlodzimierz Posted February 11, 2008 Posted February 11, 2008 Gentlemen,we know, that after WWII 1945/1946 many orders were converted from Screw-Back to Pin-Back.We have seen such order of the 1st class.Have you seen any order of 2nd or 3rd class screwback which were converted to pinback?waldemar
Bryan Posted February 14, 2008 Author Posted February 14, 2008 I haven't seen any 2nd and 3rd class pinback orders.
Piramida Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Here's a conversion of a second class from screwback to pinbackAll the bestIvan
wlodzimierz Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Very interesting order, it was hypothesis that there must be Orders of Partisan Star which were converted to pin-back.I think, that we will see 3rd class converted to pin-back as well.The way the conversion was done is interesting as well. I saw once Order of National Merit 1st class which was converted in similar way.This ist the earliest type of pin-back, I think. Maybe we will see another types of pin back as well.Thank you Ivan for this image.
Piramida Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Your welcomeI also have a merit for the people 2nd class and a brotherhood and unity 1st class converted in the same way.Ivan
wlodzimierz Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Can you see any hallmarks? I'm wondering who made the conversion. It looks like 'home-made' it means to me that it were probably very first conversion. The conversion were done as far I know only in ZIN later after privatisation renamed in ZNB. It could be that they were converted by ZIN at that time without hallmarks or any other signs.It would be great, if you could post these other conversions.Thank you Ivan
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