GREAKLY Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Russians only put up the pressure BEFORE the event. Once the auction happens they stop all the contacts and act as if it never existed. If the auction yields to their demands they try to air that fact inside the country as loud and as long as possible. They make sure that public in Russia only hears about successful attempts.The reason for all this BS is simple: 2007 happens to be in election year in Russia, so it all is just politics and PR...
Ed_Haynes Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Russians only put up the pressure BEFORE the event. Once the auction happens they stop all the contacts and act as if it never existed. If the auction yields to their demands they try to air that fact inside the country as loud and as long as possible. They make sure that public in Russia only hears about successful attempts.The reason for all this BS is simple: 2007 happens to be in election year in Russia, so it all is just politics and PR...A fascinatimng and important perspective, thanks!
Bob Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 Any possibility of getting a downloadable PDF version of the upcoming auction for the members of this forum?20 euros for a catalogue which might not contain anything I'm inclined to bid on is a bit excessive for my bank account unfortunaly regardless of the fact that I'm sure it'll be a good reference source
Ed_Haynes Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 I agree, Bob. Given the curtrent worthlessness of the $US, 20 Euros for a catalogue strikes me as excessive. Especially given what level of investment the items (and the auction fee) will likely require.
hipnos Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 Hello,Thank you for your interest - I am the owner of the abovementioned auction. Please feel free to send any questions regarding the forthcoming auction.Catalogues were sent to those who have pre-ordered them through our web site or at the shows we have been spreading leaflets. Let me know if you want .pdf catalogue. I will send that by email if needed (10 Megabytes). We did a lot of work with the auction and decided to give our first catalogue out free. Medalhouse Ltd. is new company just for the auctions, but is owned by me / Finnmedals Intl., which I have had for over ten years. Prices ARE NOT starting prices, but ESTIMATE prices. There is a reserve price on each item, but that is lower than the lowest estimate.It was nice to meet many of you at the SOS!With best regards,JaniHi Jani, It?s Miguel AGREDA (Hipnos)Happy to contact you. I?m still Looking with a smile the Nice Finish bar I bough you past yearRegardsMiguelPS/ Can you send me the PDF??
Ferdinand Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 Where do you guys read the catalogue costs 20 EUR?
Christian Zulus Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 Gentlemen,Jani's pdf for the auction was always free of charge .Best regards Christian
redcross Posted February 29, 2008 Posted February 29, 2008 well, if you put in a request for a catalogyou'll be taken to a link where for 20 euroyou can buy one - I can not howeverfind any link for a pdf version of the catalogthey did send me a postcard forthe march auctionI do not know if this means a catalogwill eventually arriveas nice as printed catalogs areespecially now that so many are in colorI'd rather not purchase themthere is only so much storage I have,but storage for pdf's - that's different
Elmar Lang Posted February 29, 2008 Posted February 29, 2008 The best would be to visit the Stuttgart Militaria show, and be present at the auction in person...I'll be there for sure!Enzo
Bob Posted February 29, 2008 Posted February 29, 2008 Just got mail from Jani - he'll be posting a PDF in a week or so. Presumably directly on his website.
redcross Posted March 1, 2008 Posted March 1, 2008 wonderful news,I look forward in hopethat it will have many interesting thingsI've dreamed of flying to europe for auctionsbut I'm afraid that will always be just a dreamso I'm thankful for the cyber commute
Bob Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 Can't find it as of yet though. Too bad, easier to get bidders with public info free of charge.
order_of_victory Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 I was going to attened the auction, but looks like I might be in France now, oh well there will always be another one Order of Victory
Jani Tiainen Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Hello,I have a link to .pdf catalog in my website www.finnmedals.net. Its on the front page almost on the top. Its low quality but still 12,5 Mb.We will publish .pdf on the medalhouse.com later this week.Jani Edited March 11, 2008 by Jani Tiainen
Ed_Haynes Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Thanks for this, Jani. Do note that the url is *.com not *.net.Some NICE things there -- but I won't tell you what! Edited March 11, 2008 by Ed_Haynes
Jani Tiainen Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 Thanks for this, Jani. Do note that the url is *.com not *.net.Some NICE things there -- but I won't tell you what! Its actually finnmedals.net - I have both .com and .net but catalog is on the latter one.Jani
Ed_Haynes Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 Its actually finnmedals.net - I have both .com and .net but catalog is on the latter one.JaniInteresting, for me *.net came up as "under construction" but I found it through *.com. In any case . . . niccceeeeee.
Christian Zulus Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 Effective buyer's priceDear Jani,many thanks for your pdf .Question about the final hammer prices: Is it the hammer price + 18 % buyers premium + 19 % (German) VAT in total ? So a item of EUR 1.000,- would cost EUR 1.404,20 ?Who exactly got the K-19-Ushi ? I guess, that the comrade in question played also a role in that great movie.Best regards ChristianHello,I have a link to .pdf catalog in my website www.finnmedals.net. Its on the front page almost on the top. Its low quality but still 12,5 Mb.We will publish .pdf on the medalhouse.com later this week.Jani
Jani Tiainen Posted March 11, 2008 Posted March 11, 2008 Effective buyer's priceDear Jani,many thanks for your pdf .Question about the final hammer prices: Is it the hammer price + 18 % buyers premium + 19 % (German) VAT in total ? So a item of EUR 1.000,- would cost EUR 1.404,20 ?Who exactly got the K-19-Ushi ? I guess, that the comrade in question played also a role in that great movie.Best regards ChristianI have asked my friend to tell more about K-19 Ushi.Buyers premium is altogether approximately 21% (18+ German VAT). That is the same as most of the big auction houses use in Germany. Germany has actually two different VAT's - the other one is used in case the item will be declared out of the EU. All the details can be found from terms & conditions in the catalog.Jani
Christian Zulus Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 I have asked my friend to tell more about K-19 Ushi.Buyers premium is altogether approximately 21% (18+ German VAT). That is the same as most of the big auction houses use in Germany. Germany has actually two different VAT's - the other one is used in case the item will be declared out of the EU. All the details can be found from terms & conditions in the catalog.JaniDear Jani,many thanks for your clarification - 21 % is moderate & normal .I myself don't have the cash in the moment, for spending EUR 10.000,- or more on another Ushi for my collection . But it might be interesting for our GMIC-community, to know, who of the K-19-crew received that Ushi .Your catalog is - concerning Soviet/Russian items - is really impressive and the starting prices are rather moderate .Best regards Christian
Ed_Haynes Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 Dear Jani,many thanks for your clarification - 21 % is moderate & normal .I myself don't have the cash in the moment, for spending EUR 10.000,- or more on another Ushi for my collection . But it might be interesting for our GMIC-community, to know, who of the K-19-crew received that Ushi .Your catalog is - concerning Soviet/Russian items - is really impressive and the starting prices are rather moderate .Best regards ChristianAnd watch those estimates ZOOM, Christian. Good for Jani (and friends), bad for us of moderate means (a.k.a. the Phaleristic Proletariat).
Christian Zulus Posted March 12, 2008 Posted March 12, 2008 And watch those estimates ZOOM, Christian. Good for Jani (and friends), bad for us of moderate means (a.k.a. the Phaleristic Proletariat).Dear Ed,you are right, we - state or army paid - historians belong to the Phaleristic Proletariat, in comparison to the numerous "more than rich" Russian collectors, who have their residences in Vienna and in the Austrian Alps .But have a look at Jani's two "Kosovo-Medals" - the are numbered and their starting prices are really moderate .Best regards Christian
Jani Tiainen Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) Just for information, This year we have fall auction as well, that takes place in Finland, October 17th. We are currently making the catalog and there will be nice items from Finland, Estonia and of course CCCP. Catalog should be ready to be mailed near mid-Sept. Jani Edited August 27, 2009 by Jani Tiainen
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