Guest Rick Research Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Wow! I had NO idea there were so many different ribbons. I have never paid much attention to any of the self-purchased vanity awards--SOMEBODY needs to do a scientific study of these Weimar for-profit "awards." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) I hope Daniel doesn't mind if I re-post this nice table he made for WAF a couple of years ago: Edited November 14, 2017 by webr55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) There are at least two more which can be found on this site. Edited November 14, 2017 by webr55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) And this one, which is marked as a cavalry ribbon: Edited November 14, 2017 by webr55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I remember that table. Thank you for posting it.Here's another bar (Frackspange) with a quite uncommon unit bar...Ciao,Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Cladio,I would be interested to know what it says on the other side of this "Kraftfahr Abt." REK, since this is not a regiment or a battalion. I too have an REK bar to an Abteilung. I wonder which medal would have gone with it?By the way, I am looking for a loose "Treu dem Bataillon" REK to go with a J?ger unit bar that I have.Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Hi Chip,In German the term Abt. (Abteilung) is to indicate a unit of a size of Battalion. This term is especially used for artillery units or special units attached to a Division.Ciao,Claudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Hi Chip,In German the term Abt. (Abteilung) is to indicate a unit of a size of Battalion. This term is especially used for artillery units or special units attached to a Division.Ciao,ClaudioBut it does not need to be so, An Abteilung can also be a unit way smaller than a Battalion.Fernsprechabt. Sanit?ts Abt. etc were all much smaller than Bataillons.Ditto when Sturmabteilung Rohr increased its number to Bataillon strength it then became Sturm-Bataillon Rohr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIR Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) Hello, I received this Infantery regiments cross.Is the blue ribbon correct? What do you think! Thanks Jens Edited July 4, 2007 by KIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Is the blue ribbon correct? What do you think!No Jens, I don't think so. Blue is for a navy cross (or a Pussian long service or something like this, of course). This cross should have, if I understood it rigth, the ribbon with red and yellow ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) Thanks guys. I know what an Abteilung can be. I was just wondering if there was an REK with a different unit size mentioned. Now that I study Claudio's reverse picture, I see that his Abteilung bar is being worn in conjunction with a "Bataillon" cross. So now I need two crosses that have "Treu dem Bataillon". Jens,Anything seems to be possible with these REK ribbons, but I personally have not seen one on a bar with a solid color ribbon. I would think one of the ribbons seen on the medal bars above that are used with infantry unit bars would be more appropriate.ChipShot at 2007-07-04 Edited July 4, 2007 by Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIR Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Hi Sascha, generally you are right, but I think (like Chip) everything is possible.The medal & ribbon looked unworn and untouched (unbefummelt)! ;-)Thank to both!Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Jens,I like your 145.I.R. bar. I met a family member who was in the regiment before (1909-1911) and during the war. He was 92 years old when I met him in 1980. During is service with the regiment, he rose from private to the rank of Feldwebelleutnant.Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIR Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) Chip,oh, that sounds great - please tell me more! ;-)I'm really interested of any information about this regiment!My grandfather was (during the 1. WW) he rose from private to the rank of lieutenant in this regiment.Jens Edited July 4, 2007 by KIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 one more for this thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sef1962 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hello just joined this forum i have got this medal, i hope it is of interest thanks Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Mark,Thanks for adding that one! I don't recall seeing a pioneer example before and with a ribbon color combination normally seen with artillery unit bars. Regards,Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Bob Lempke would like it. His Dad was in that unit . They had flamethrower troops drawn from that battalion and according to Bob, were a hard core Freikorps unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Ulster,Bob's father was in the Garde Reserve Pionier Regiment, I believe. This was the unit that provided specially trained troops for offensive actions, training purposes, etc. The Flammenwerfer sections were parceled out as needed and other troops lent their expertise to regular infantry units and often went into action with them.Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 ah-my error then. Where is Bob these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 ah-my error then. Where is Bob these days?He was in the hospital and is recovering. I talked to him on the phone not too long ago.Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Recovering?If you talk to him soon please send my (our) best wishes.Thanks- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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