House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed

[webr55]

Hptm aD Dettinger can only be Karl Dettinger. He is listed in the ERL under "wiederverwendete inaktive Offiziere", originally from IR 132, and in the VL listed from Stuttgart. 

 

 

[webr55]

Major Dencker can only be Fritz Hermann Dencker, cdr of FußAR 10:

(Glenn provided the info: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=104571) 

 

Died 28. Aug. 1952 in Haselünne as OTL aD acc. to data from myheritage (they have his birth date as 24 Jan 1869 in Solingen). 

 

 

 

Hptm Davids is Adolf Wilhelm Davids, born 24.4.1881 in Schleswig, died 31.3.1933 (ancestry).

We had him here already: https://gmic.co.uk/topic/39659-ek2-18701914-spange-baden-mystery-medal-bar/

 

Edited May 24, 2022 by webr55

[Daniel Krause]

Thanks a lot, Chris!!!

 

Davids- in my files I have "wohl nicht Adolf" written in my list.

Maybe Dave can clear this up with his deeper view in the Baden Archive stuff.

 

Best,

Daniel

[webr55]

Hptm dL Sunkel can only be Heinrich Friedrich Sunkel, born 2. Mai 1877 in Rotenburg/Fulda, Amtsrichter (ancestry).

Edited May 24, 2022 by webr55

[Dave Danner]

10 hours ago, Daniel Krause said:

Thanks a lot, Chris!!!

 

Davids- in my files I have "wohl nicht Adolf" written in my list.

Maybe Dave can clear this up with his deeper view in the Baden Archive stuff.

 

Best,

Daniel

 

Adolf Davids' Personalakte was complete through to the end of 1919. He had the EK2 (25.9.14), EK1 (3.10.16), VAs (27.5.18), BZ3bXE (19.8.15) and the Baden Regierungsjubiläumsmedaille (1902). No HOH3X.

 

The other active Hauptmann Davids was:

Davids, Heinrich Julius Kurt
*06.10.1874 in Bederkesa bei Cuxhaven, Lehe, †03.07.1956 in Karlsruhe

- Hauptmann (1.10.1912), Platzmajor in Rastatt (Uniform IR 16), Bataillons-Kommandeur im RIR 34, Major am 15.7.1918, 1921 Polizeimajor in Saarbrücken, Major a.D.

- Cent, BZ3bXE

Edited May 24, 2022 by Dave Danner

[webr55]

This should be a new one: Rudolf Berkemeyer, also received the Hessen. From the Verzeichnis der Universität Rostock, 1918. 

[Dave Danner]

He is in the list, misspelled as "Berckemeyer". Berkemeyer is correct, according to the Militär-Wochenblatt, the Militär-Kabinett and the Prussian Verlustlisten. Born 9.3.1891 in Burgsteinfurt, he is listed by the University as missing in action and "für tot erklärt 1.11.1918".

 

However, according to the Ehrenmal, the Lt.d.R. killed on 1.11.1918 was from LGR 109. Rudolf Berkemeyer was a Kriegsfreiwilliger in IR 47 and served in IR 118 and RIR 118. He was wounded 5 times and is not listed as "vermißt" in any Verlustliste. Nor is there any Lt. Berckemeyer/Berkemeyer listed as "vermißt" in a November 1918 Verlustliste or later. Therefore, I cannot say for certain if he died in 1918 or not.

 

Berkemeyer received the HOH3X on 26.1.1918. He also received the Rettungsmedaille am Bande on 16.9.1918.

[Daniel Krause]

good stuff!!

 

Heinrich Sunkel was Amtsgerichtsrat in Ziegenhain.

 

Best,

Daniel

[webr55]

Olt Jancke (or maybe rather the Lt dR Janke) is Dr. Herbert Jancke (1886-1959), Oberfinanzpräsident:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Jancke

 

 

Name found below in Breslauer Hochschul-Rundschau 1918:

Edited May 25, 2022 by webr55

[Dave Danner]

Daniel, for some reason I thought I already sent you a bio for Woller, the Lt. in IR 46.

 

See here: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=154554&p=2410504#p2410504

[Dave Danner]

Since I was going through bios of officers on the same roll that Woller was on, I added a bio of the rather well-decorated Erich Wollmar here:

 

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=264809

 

Three Prussian, three Anhalt and three Sachsen-Altenburg decorations.

[webr55]

The Hptm dR Winkler from RIR 11 was Amtsgerichtsrat in Zobten during WW1, but I couldn't find his first name. 

 

There was an Oskar Winkler who was Amtsgerichtsrat in Delitzsch in 1924 (acc. to their address book), but I am not sure whether they are identical. 

Edited May 26, 2022 by webr55

[webr55]

Maybe we had him here already: The Olt "von Winkler" in our list can only be Hartwig von Winckler, originally from IR 152, later a flyer. 1888-1954, in WW2 Lw Oberst:

https://www.tracesofwar.com/persons/73850/Winckler-von-Hartwig.htm

[webr55]

Georg von Wühlisch, son of GM Bruno v. W., born 1883, KIA as Oberst in 1944. 

 

 

[webr55]

Otto Karl August Zickendrath, born 20.3.1873 in Johannisburg/Oberlahnkreis (ancestry). 

[Dave Danner]

7 hours ago, webr55 said:

The Hptm dR Winkler from RIR 11 was Amtsgerichtsrat in Zobten during WW1, but I couldn't find his first name. 

 

There was an Oskar Winkler who was Amtsgerichtsrat in Delitzsch in 1924 (acc. to their address book), but I am not sure whether they are identical. 

 

Winkler is Hermann Richard, *15.8.1870 in Mettkau, Neumarkt in Schlesien; Hauptmann d.R. (Schweidnitz) des Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 51; HOH3X, LD1, VAs, ÖM3K

[Glenn J]

10 hours ago, Dave Danner said:

Winkler is Hermann Richard,

 

The Militär-Wochenblatt (43/1931) gives his date of death as 17 November 1930 at Koselwitz, Kreis Rosenberg, Oberschlesien.

 

Regards

Glenn

[webr55]

We have a Karl von Hake, but I think we don't have him yet:

 

Fritz Adolf Carl von Hake, born 15.8.1874 in Soldin. 1914 Hptm in 5. GzF. Cdr of IR 462, Maj aD. 

 

Died 30.9.1958 in Bad Hersfeld (acc. to data from myheritage). 

 

His HHOX is mentioned along with his other awards in a publication "Geschichte der brandenburgischen Familie von Hake", 1928: 

 

Edited May 28, 2022 by webr55

[webr55]

Jülicher is Martin (1893-1963):

http://www.der-chronist.de/wickrath.html

[webr55]

Käsbach is Ewald, born 27.9.1876 in Bottrop (VL), MIA in 1918, later declared dead:

https://heimatverein-gladbeck.de/chronik-des-vereins/

 

[webr55]

More info on Major aD Erwin Theodor von Kaulla (1877 in Illereichen - 1956 in Konstanz), from a Jewish family of bankers:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaulla_(Unternehmerfamilie)

Edited May 30, 2022 by webr55

[webr55]

Major Lenné is Hans Ludwig Lenné, 4.1.1877 - 28.11.1965 in Düsseldorf (acc. to geneal. data).

Three of his sons were KIA in WW2.

[Dave Danner]

A Hauptmann Freiherr von Schade was gazetted with the HOH3X in September 1917. Unfortunately, there were two such Hauptleute, and I have no idea which was the HOH3X recipient. Max was a general staff officer, so he seems like the best bet, but Hermann was an infantry combat officer, so he can't be ruled out.

 

1. Schade, Albert Carl Fritz Max Freiherr von, *07.05.1886 in Münster in Westfalen, gefallen 21.01.1945 in Ratibor.

27.02.1904 aus der Hauptkadettenanstalt als Fähnrich dem Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 13 überwiesen
27.01.1905 Leutnant mit Patent vom 22.06.1903 (5)
01.11.1911 zur Kriegsakademie kommandiert
19.06.1912 Oberleutnant (J21)
xx.08.1914 ins Feld als Führer der M.G.-Kompanie des Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 13
24.08.1914 verwundet
12.10.1914 zum Regiment zurück
28.11.1914 Hauptmann (Vv)
xx.xx.1916 im Generalstabe des VI. Reservekorps
xx.xx.1918 im Generalstabe der 11. Reserve-Division
16.05.1920 im Generalstabe des Reichswehr-Gruppenkommandos 2 (laut Stellenbesetzung)
01.10.1920 im Generalstabe des Gruppenkommandos 2 (laut Stellenbesetzung)
01.10.1921 im Infanterie-Regiment 15, kommandiert zum Generalstabe des Gruppenkommandos 2 (laut Stellenbesetzung)
30.11.1922 ausgeschieden

 - A char. Major i.G. a.D., he was a Prokurist in Ratibor and later Hamburg, and was reactivated as a Generalstabsoffizier der Reserve.

20.01.1941 Führerreserve OKH, kommandiert zum Generalkommando des VIII. Armeekorps
16.03.1941 Ia der 305. Infanterie-Division
27.12.1941 Ia der 246. Infanterie-Division
16.01.1943 Führerreserve OKH
12.02.1943 Chef des Stabes des Kommandanten des rückw. Armee-Gebiets 582
01.04.1943 Oberst i.G. d.R.
25.08.1943 Führerreserve OKH

xx.xx.1945 Führer einer Kampfgruppe

 

Known decorations:

24.07.1915 Herzoglich Sachsen-Meiningsches Ehrenkreuz für Verdienst im Kriege
20.12.1941 Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwertern
12.03.1942 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuze 2. Klasse
03.08.1942 Medaille "Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42"
05.08.1942 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuze 1. Klasse

 

2. Schade, Hermann Carl Freiherr von, *03.10.1888 in Münster in Westfalen, † 21.11.2009 in Hamburg

14.03.1907 aus der Hauptkadettenanstalt als Leutnant, vorläufig ohne Patent, dem Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 13 überwiesen
14.06.1907 Patent als Leutnant (Vv)
01.10.1912 Adjutant des I. Bataillons
03.09.1914 Regiments-Adjutant
24.12.1914 Oberleutnant
05.10.1916 Hauptmann (N4n)
30.08.1919 zur Disposition gestellt,  Hauptmann a.D.

13.09.1938 SS-Brigadeführer

 

Hermann's SS personnel file lists the EK1 and "Landesorden", among other later awards. Since the HOH3X is a Landesorden, he can't be ruled out on that alone.

 

The third of the three brothers Freiherr von Schade was Carl Alfred, *18.09.1887 in Münster in Westfalen, †12.05.1955 in Wiesbaden. He was an Oberleutnant (5.9.1914) in the Schutztruppe für Deutsch-Südwestafrika, and was wounded and taken prisoner in March 1915. He was not promoted to Hauptmann until 1919 (backdated to 18.9.1915), so he can be ruled out for the HOH3X. He received a Charakter bump to Major which is not shown in the Ehrenrangliste. Other than the basic awards he would have had as a ST SWA officer (EK2, wound badge, Elefant), the only known award for Carl is the Rettungsmedaille am Bande, which he received on 23.4.1926.

Edited May 31, 2022 by Dave Danner

[webr55]

About the two Lotze:

 

One is Robert Franz Benevenuto Lotze, Major aD from Pioniere, born 2.9.1875 in Osterode, died 1965, as is mentioned here:

https://www.archiv-vegelahn.de/index.php/osterode-am-harz/item/5368-unter-dem-harze-nr-929-931-kindheit-in-osterode-vor-hundert-jahren-1875-1948 

 

The other Lotze was Hauptmann aD in 1918, originally from FR 36. In 1914 as Lt kommandiert zur Haupt-Kadetten-Anstalt, but I don't find his first name.

 

 

[webr55]

Bernhard Ruberg became SS-Brigadeführer, died 1945:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Ruberg

 

 

20 hours ago, Dave Danner said:

A Hauptmann Freiherr von Schade was gazetted with the HOH3X in September 1917. Unfortunately, there were two such Hauptleute, and I have no idea which was the HOH3X recipient. Max was a general staff officer, so he seems like the best bet, but Hermann was an infantry combat officer, so he can't be ruled out.

 

1. Schade, Albert Carl Fritz Max Freiherr von, *07.05.1886 in Münster in Westfalen, gefallen 21.01.1945 in Ratibor.

27.02.1904 aus der Hauptkadettenanstalt als Fähnrich dem Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 13 überwiesen
27.01.1905 Leutnant mit Patent vom 22.06.1903 (5)
01.11.1911 zur Kriegsakademie kommandiert
19.06.1912 Oberleutnant (J21)
xx.08.1914 ins Feld als Führer der M.G.-Kompanie des Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 13
24.08.1914 verwundet
12.10.1914 zum Regiment zurück
28.11.1914 Hauptmann (Vv)
xx.xx.1916 im Generalstabe des VI. Reservekorps
xx.xx.1918 im Generalstabe der 11. Reserve-Division
16.05.1920 im Generalstabe des Reichswehr-Gruppenkommandos 2 (laut Stellenbesetzung)
01.10.1920 im Generalstabe des Gruppenkommandos 2 (laut Stellenbesetzung)
01.10.1921 im Infanterie-Regiment 15, kommandiert zum Generalstabe des Gruppenkommandos 2 (laut Stellenbesetzung)
30.11.1922 ausgeschieden

 - A char. Major i.G. a.D., he was a Prokurist in Ratibor and later Hamburg, and was reactivated as a Generalstabsoffizier der Reserve.

20.01.1941 Führerreserve OKH, kommandiert zum Generalkommando des VIII. Armeekorps
16.03.1941 Ia der 305. Infanterie-Division
27.12.1941 Ia der 246. Infanterie-Division
16.01.1943 Führerreserve OKH
12.02.1943 Chef des Stabes des Kommandanten des rückw. Armee-Gebiets 582
01.04.1943 Oberst i.G. d.R.
25.08.1943 Führerreserve OKH

xx.xx.1945 Führer einer Kampfgruppe

 

Known decorations:

24.07.1915 Herzoglich Sachsen-Meiningsches Ehrenkreuz für Verdienst im Kriege
20.12.1941 Kriegsverdienstkreuz 2. Klasse mit Schwertern
12.03.1942 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuze 2. Klasse
03.08.1942 Medaille "Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42"
05.08.1942 1939 Spange zum Eisernen Kreuze 1. Klasse

 

2. Schade, Hermann Carl Freiherr von, *03.10.1888 in Münster in Westfalen, † 21.11.2009 in Hamburg

14.03.1907 aus der Hauptkadettenanstalt als Leutnant, vorläufig ohne Patent, dem Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 13 überwiesen
14.06.1907 Patent als Leutnant (Vv)
01.10.1912 Adjutant des I. Bataillons
03.09.1914 Regiments-Adjutant
24.12.1914 Oberleutnant
05.10.1916 Hauptmann (N4n)
30.08.1919 zur Disposition gestellt,  Hauptmann a.D.

13.09.1938 SS-Brigadeführer

 

Hermann's SS personnel file lists the EK1 and "Landesorden", among other later awards. Since the HOH3X is a Landesorden, he can't be ruled out on that alone.

 

The third of the three brothers Freiherr von Schade was Carl Alfred, *18.09.1887 in Münster in Westfalen, †12.05.1955 in Wiesbaden. He was an Oberleutnant (5.9.1914) in the Schutztruppe für Deutsch-Südwestafrika, and was wounded and taken prisoner in March 1915. He was not promoted to Hauptmann until 1919 (backdated to 18.9.1915), so he can be ruled out for the HOH3X. He received a Charakter bump to Major which is not shown in the Ehrenrangliste. Other than the basic awards he would have had as a ST SWA officer (EK2, wound badge, Elefant), the only known award for Carl is the Rettungsmedaille am Bande, which he received on 23.4.1926.

 

Some research about the SS-Schade (1888-1966) was done at AHF, the bio shown there (though I don't know where it comes from) does not list a HHOX:

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=83354