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Raz, July 24, 2004 in Germany: Third Reich: State, Civil, NSDAP Awards & Decorations
Nice, unquestionable bar! It is definately a keeper!
Now Paul... you just had to go and tell him about the keeper part didn't you? And here I was gonna tell him to put it in a packet and mail it over here because it was something he "shouldn't" keep.
But yes indeed, a very nice bar that "I wish I had"... so if you ever decide it's "not a keeper"...
By the way. Dr. Robert Ley also got the first class. during my research for the awardlist of Mr. Ley I found this photo in my archive. Nobody listed this award before...
Just wondered if, #1 there is any list of recipients of the Olympic Decorations from 36 or #2 if there is any type of list re those or other similar high awards given as reissues in 57? Especially the Olymnpic 1st and 2nd class I can't imagine there would have been many reissues in 57.
Didn't know if anyone happened to know this.
Hi Don,Thanks for stopping in to take a gander at the old girl. She is a beaut... a bit on the dusty side... now I wish I'd prettied her up. I'll probably have to do that and redo the pics so she'll be a nice and perty! And I think you're right on them being Allach although I'm not going to say I'm positive. Perhaps one of the other members could confirm if this is correct. I've seen a few Allach pieces at Jack Angolia's and this does have that same beautiful white color that you can lose yourself in. It's beautiful stuff for sure.Thanks, Dan
Thanks for stopping in to take a gander at the old girl. She is a beaut... a bit on the dusty side... now I wish I'd prettied her up. I'll probably have to do that and redo the pics so she'll be a nice and perty!
And I think you're right on them being Allach although I'm not going to say I'm positive. Perhaps one of the other members could confirm if this is correct. I've seen a few Allach pieces at Jack Angolia's and this does have that same beautiful white color that you can lose yourself in. It's beautiful stuff for sure.
There were 2 different bells, one was in the form of a bank and the other is pictured and it sat on a base, the one above is actually made by KPM if im not mistaken and not Allach. KPM pieces however are quite nice.
Something not quite right here
But it is 100% good
My sole Olympic addition to this thread....
My only remaining Olympic piece
Does anyone know who designed the 1st and 2nd Class awards? Or who made them - I always though Godet but don't have anything to back that up.
I've also noticed from the few pictures available of the cases that the 1st Class usuallys seem to have the dome-headed push stud while I've only found pictures of the 2nd class case with a rectangular push-stud. Anyone know any more on that?
Some fantastic pieces being posted in this thread, keep it coming guys
I don't know if it's just me imagining it now but I also seem to recall seeing a
picture somewhere of a maker marked 1st or 2nd class decoration somewhere.
The more common commemorative medal however had clearly a few different makers.
As for the cases I have seen 2nd class examples with both round a rectangle push studs.
The 1st class I've only seen with the rectangular stud.
Now that you mention it, there is a picture of a mounted 2nd class in Detlev Neimann's book that has a tailor's label for Godet sewn onto the back. That doesn't mean that they made it of course. There is also a 1st class pictured in JR Angolia's book on Political/Civil awards that has the number 38 on the back, but the author says he doesn't know what this stands for. Anyway, Godet seems most likely to me, but I still can't back that up.
Both classes were designed by Professor Raemisch.
The original award pieces were infact made bt Godet. These were had made.
Warlord - thanks for the information confirming Godet as the manufacturer. And for showing such a high quality example.
Peter - I would be interested in any more details you can give about Raemisch being the designer. I have heard this before (it appears on a US militaria dealer's site) but I wonder if this might be the result of a misunderstanding. Professor Walter Raemisch is mentioned in the official report of the 1936 Olympics as having designed the Olympic Badges (with the Brandenburg Gate and Olympic rings) worn by participants and officials at the Games. He also designed the badge for visitors. But I have not seen anything convincing to say that Raemisch also designed the Olympia-Ehrenzeichen.
I wish I could be of more assistance, but I'm only passing on the info found in Angolia's 2nd vol. Whether or not this is a correct statement, I can't tell. But until contradicting info surface, what are our options?
Sorry James for not getting your name right
There is also a 1st class pictured in JR Angolia's book on Political/Civil awards that has the number 38 on the back, but the author says he doesn't know what this stands for. UNFORTUNATLY THIS PIECE MIGHT VERY WELL BE A COPY.
Another picture of Dr. Robert Ley wearing hie first class met Italian friend in 1939.
Interesting picture - thanks Alexander
Hello, every one, this is not Allah, but i would like to share it with you.
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