Guest Rick Research Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Here is a 2nd Class that came in today. This Order seems to mirror the old Tsarist Bulgarian Bravery Order, having 4 classes and 2 colors of enamel just like the old royal Orders:1st Class (pinback white enamel), 2nd Class (ribboned--white enamel),3rd Class (pinback red enamel),4th Class (ribboned red enamel)The swords seem to indicate that it was a MILITARY award, but it also seems to have been awarded long after Bulgaria changed sides in 1944. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Here is a Bulgarian Order of 9th September in the painted D profile plastiglas ribbon bar of a Soviet border guards general-- 2nd ribbon from the left on the next to bottom row: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wolfe Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I've gotta quit reading these posts I'm starting to want to add more of these to my collection. One is never enough, medals, potato chips, wives.... God, I'm a weak man!Cheers Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoly13 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Correct for old Tsarist Bulgarian Bravery Order:1st Class (pinback white enamel), - 3rd cl. 1st grade2nd Class (ribboned--white enamel), - 3rd cl. 2nd grade3rd Class (pinback red enamel),b - 4th cl. 1 grade4th Class (ribboned red enamel) - 4th cl. 2 gradethere are of course 1st,2nd and 3rd classes and soldier's cross ( 5th cl) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapa Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Here is a 2nd Class that came in today. This Order seems to mirror the old Tsarist Bulgarian Bravery Order, having 4 classes and 2 colors of enamel just like the old royal Orders:1st Class (pinback white enamel), 2nd Class (ribboned--white enamel),3rd Class (pinback red enamel),4th Class (ribboned red enamel)The swords seem to indicate that it was a MILITARY award, but it also seems to have been awarded long after Bulgaria changed sides in 1944. Rick,The Order of 9th September comes only in 3 classes. There has been however different types and variations:1st class: 66mm white-enameled star on both obverse and reverse2nd class: 60mm white-enameled star on obverse only, reverse blank3rd class: 60mm red-enameled star on obverse only, reverse blankThere exist both a military (with swords) and a civilian (no swords) versions.Vithout going into the detail of all the subvariations, early 1st classes were neck orders, while 2nd and 3rd were screwback. Then, all went on 5-sided suspension.Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Ah. I have seen the screwback and ribboned white and red ones and thought there were 4 classes, not 3. What year was the change from screwback to ribboned types?"My" general had his 2nd Class before 1970, but that is all I know from an older ribbon bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 The change from screw back to ribboned types happened in the beginning of 50-th.On my opinion during the communist period exists 5 different types of this order?..And 2 variants with swords and with out swords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Today I got this screw-back 3rd Class:The silver center portrait is a separate piece held onto the back by a nut on the silver screw post.The reverse screwdisk and the lower right arm of the star on back are both maker marked:Strakhil'Miloshev'3-23-89SofiyaBeslets. 55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoly13 Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Second emission.Congrats!Very nice order,I like it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Very good order. Produce of famous in Bulgaria Strahil Miloshev. On the base of his mint atelier official bulgaria Sofia mint was organized.Its very interesting information, that only 3-d class of second emission of this order have marks on the reverce. Really to this moment nobode know for sure why......Only suggestions...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Another focus Rick? I bet that these are a lot rarer than many Soviet Orders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 This is 2-d class of this second emission. Type with swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Reverse. Look, no marks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 1-st class of this emission. Variant with swords..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Nice!! and still affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 This orders is rare items of socialistic Bulgaria. And became more and more expensive every day..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 LOVELY items to see-- THANKS!!! So, if these are all the second type-- what did the first type look like?When did the design changes happen?Were these "9 Septembers" presented with award documents like:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...ost&p=17041or with Soviet style Orders Books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoly13 Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 LOVELY items to see-- THANKS!!! So, if these are all the second type-- what did the first type look ...First and most rare emission called "ВЛ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoly13 Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Reverse is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Wonderful! So many things NEVER SEEN here before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoly13 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Rick,if you want to collect this orders you must be ready for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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