Lippe-Detmold

[Solomon]

Oh, you don?t need to clean your monitor...here is a closer look on his medalbar :rolleyes:

[Deruelle]

Very nice photo indeed

Christophe

[Noor]

My one and only.... one of the best bars, what I have.... from Lippe-Detmold:

Georg Johannes Friedrich Freiherr von Eppstein - Wirklicher Geheimer Rat, Chef des Zivilkabinetts von Lippe-Detmold !!!!!

(ID by RickResearch)

[Ulsterman]

THAT ...is quite a picture-a VERY early furled medal bar too!!!!

Three wow salute!

:speechless1: :speechless1:

[avadski]

Folks,

I have never seen this type of hinge and needle before...might be a post war repair?

[avadski]

[Solomon]

Folks,

I have never seen this type of hinge and needle before...might be a post war repair?

Oh noooooo!

I?m sorry, but I have to inform you, that exactly this type of the heroic-deeds-cross is a well known fake.

You can find these faked crosses often on Ebay, especially one German dealer sells them once a month on Ebay.

Sorry for the bad news...but it is definitely not a repaired old one.

Best regards

Roman

[avadski]

No problem! I did not purchase it Thanks very much for feedback anyway.

[avadski]

Just for the future...what makes it fake (except for the needle)?

[Solomon]

Just for the future...what makes it fake (except for the needle)?

Quite hard to say, you might need some experiences and a good one to compare with...the needle-system is the best way to identify a faked cross,

especially when it looks like the shown example.

Best regards

Roman

[Wild Card]

Here is a little fellow from Lippe who stopped by recently to have his picture taken.

[Guest Rick Research]

Well, THAT simplifies things. There were only THREE recipients:

Alten, Theodor von Major, Detmold 30.11.98

Krohn, (Friedrich) Eisenbahn Direktor aD, Detmold 04.10.88

Petri, (Theodor) B?rgermeister, Detmold 02.08.97

:catjava:

[Wild Card]

Rick,

Thank you very much for this information. I knew that this was a rare award but with conflicting information,

I did not realize that it was this rare. Typically, of course you not only have the number, but the names as well -

amazing... as always.

Do you make this stuff up?

Just kidding, Thanks again,

Wild Card

[Guest Rick Research]

:catjava:

And if anyone decides to look for the full sized version?

Uh... don't waste your time.

The TRULY thing about having the Detmold rolls published will be the Awful Reality of the numbers RETURNED. :ninja:

[medalnet]

And if anyone decides to look for the full sized version?

Uh... don't waste your time.

The TRULY thing about having the Detmold rolls published will be the Awful Reality of the numbers RETURNED.

Well, I was a long time among an elected group of people at an auction in Frankfurt. I remember George Seymour and Eric Ludvigsen being there, too. My very first encounter.

that auction had a real sword on ring piece. One out of three

[medalnet]

...something not seem too often, or never before:

[Elvis]

Hello medalnet,

this decoration looks very very nice.

I know the style of the cross with the swords. Germany WW II looks similar.

I also can read the wordings, but I did not know what kind of decoration it is.

Can you please explain?

Thanks

[Guest Rick Research]

:unsure: That would have been

THE

one.

The others are teaspoons, now. :catjava:

[Solomon]

The others are teaspoons, now.

...or in my collection

Just kidding...really nice fellows, and of course a highlight in everyone?s collection.

Best regards

Roman

[Deruelle]

Hi,

Nice cross indeed. IN the Schwark book's Orden une Ehrenziehcn des F?rstentums Lippe Detmold, there are only 5 crosses like you have, only 5. And to prove the rarity there is no photo of this cross in this book

Christophe

[Guest Rick Research]

Of what? I still don't have that book. But I did transcribe all the Rolls. :rolleyes:

[Guest Rick Research]

Ahhh, my mistake! I had to go look at the Statutes. I thought Andreas had posted a 3rd Class-- as they later were, not the original form 2nd Class!

Yes, there WERE five awarded by Detmold

but three of them were returned.***

That, of course, does NOT include the awards ("many more" only by comparison) of identical crosses made then-jointly by Schaumburg.

*** The Lippe collectors are going to be amazed when the award rolls are published. ALL will THEN be revealed. :catjava:

[avadski]

The (fake) one i posted above (post #181) was sold on eBay for 128 EUR by this seller: http://myworld.ebay.de/orehilas321/

[avadski]

Received my first one today. On non-combatants ribbon.

[avadski]