For Research 15 Place Imperial Ribbon Bar Godet Manufacture

[alan_g]

I have in my collection this 15 place Godet ribbon bar with an array of nicely made devices including crowns, swords, and wreaths.

I am hoping that I can get some more information about the awards that are present here and some information about the career of this officer. Possibly an identification too.

Thanks in advance.

Alan

[Deruelle]

Hi,

Nice ribbon bar. One thing, I don't understand why there is no long service ribbon ! Strange !

Christophe

[M Hunter]

Dear Alan,

A very impressive ribbon bar.

Best wishes

Matt

[saschaw]

Beautiful one! Definitely deserves bigger pictures... it's hard to recognize the ribbons in this stamp size pictures...

I'm sure this can be identified.

[alan_g]

Hi guys,

Thanks for your interest.

Sorry here are some better photographs for you:

Best Regards

Alan.

[alan_g]

Here is the back with the exceptionally chunky and typical Godet style pin. The makers metal ticket also shows that it was definately a Godet product.

[redeagleorder]

Nice ribbon bar!!

[alan_g]

Would anyone like to hazard a guess as to what job type and career of the officer to whom the ribbon bar belonged to?

[Daniel Krause]

Nice one!

I would guess he is a quite impressive decorated Major with a quite unimpressive career :-)

Bar dates as early WW1 Godet style, maybe around 1917.

Age 43 at the begínning of WW1 he had obviously not the required 25 active service years before the award of the long service cross was ceased for the wartime.

Lots of greetings

Daniel

[JasonA]

Hi Alan,

What a nice bar. Some great devices on there. Thanks for sharing!

J-

[ccj]

Very nice bar, maybe a general staff officer.

[alan_g]

Nice one!

I would guess he is a quite impressive decorated Major with a quite unimpressive career :-)

Bar dates as early WW1 Godet style, maybe around 1917.

Age 43 at the begínning of WW1 he had obviously not the required 25 active service years before the award of the long service cross was ceased for the wartime.

Lots of greetings

Daniel

Thank you Daniel. If someone can place an ID, and the history can be researched further we can see if this matches to your evaluation but a good start on it :)

[Daniel Krause]

Hi Alan,

thanks for Your comment on my "guess".

My "guess" is, that HE was born 1871, was a Captain in 1914, promoted to Major beginning of WW1 and "finished" as LtCol. No General staffer, although the array of decorations could easily point in that direction, no brave frontliner. I would look in the technical branches.

What ideas do You as a ribbon bar colletor have about it?

Lots of greetings

Daniel

[alan_g]

Hi Daniel,

I too assume that he was a Major during or toward the end of WWI.

A man with a long career driven service, well networked throughout German Kingdoms, possibly a military attache or advisor/liason officer of some description.

Close to retirement by the end of WWI.

I would also say he was someone who dressed well. I say this because Godet made some of the finest ribbon bars, with the best quality miniature devices. (As seen in this case). He would have paid a premium for using Godet to produce this bar for him. Rather than another supplier/out-fitter in Berlin. He must have been quite a well paid officer.

[Nicolas7507]

Could this be the bar of the same man? (Not mine)

The owner was Oberstleutnant Karl Schumann Commander of FAR 46

 

 

Nicolas

[Paul C]

I agree. What is the source of your identification?

[Nicolas7507]

The bar is owned by a member in this forum.

"ccj"

Sorry, I do not know his real name

[ccj]

I own it and Daniel Krause ID'd the bar. there are a few different ribbons on the bar. 

[Nicolas7507]

I am not so sure anymore.

They look quite similar but they are even pre war differences on the 2 bars

[ccj]

I don't think they're same owner but if you send me yours I'll spend months, maybe years, researching them.