Ian Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) Hi, Can some one have a go at deciphering this signature for me please? Regards, Ian Edited August 6, 2020 by Ian correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Ian ,perhaps Grunberger . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 Bayern, Thanks for the response. I can not find a Grunberger in Schmidt-Brentano's list of Generals. I am 99% certain that who ever he is he is a Feldmarschalleutnant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxcob Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) It is actually „Großpapa“=Granddad. You might not find him in the list either for obvious reasons ☺️. Edited August 8, 2020 by saxcob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 Many thanks for your response. No wonder I could not find him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 It makes sense . Grosspapa. Ian : looking the photo I note that the Grosspapa wears what appears to be a Dragoon Oberstleutnant uniform . Light blue with regimental colour collar ,one row of plain buttons and the left shoulder gold and black Achselschlinge of the Cavalry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 My initial thought was he was an Artillery officer, but cavalry is just as probable. I could not get a clear enough enlargement to be certain. This one is definitely a signature and it belongs to a Generalmajor...any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Hello! Where are the p´s in papa? I can read Gruß?????, Are the more infos upon the reverse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) Unfortunately, other than the greeting there is nothing else written on the reverse. Now that I know that the first part is Gruss,,,, I can see it, but the remainder is a blur. Originally when I first looked at it I thought it was Graf...... Edited August 9, 2020 by Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxcob Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) I stick to my original guess. Also note that the connection line to the ss starts at the top which should make the preceding (round) letter an o rather than an u which looks different (see chart). Appears to be a child's handwriting. Edited August 9, 2020 by saxcob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytop Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Hi, I don't have a problem with Großpapa Uwe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utgardloki Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 The "o" can be open on top if not done neatly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 Thank you one and all for your invaluable input to the issue. Whilst the jury is divided I am reasonably comfortable with Großpapa. Regards, Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 With a little bit of phantasy Großpapa is really possible... It´s a shame, that the "young" germans like me (52) didn´t learn the old scripts in school... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utgardloki Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) I am 95% sure it is "Großpapa", On 14/08/2020 at 04:13, The Prussian said: It´s a shame, that the "young" germans like me (52) didn´t learn the old scripts in school... I am in my twenties and feel the same, I had to learn it myself...would be nice if at least it would be learned during art class. Edited August 26, 2020 by Utgardloki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Lang Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I agree it's written "Großpapa". I'm 62 and Italian, but I thank my parents, both fluent in German, for having taught me the Kurrentschrift (aka "Sütterlin" in a later form), when I was a young boy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1812 Overture Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 11 hours ago, Elmar Lang said: I agree it's written "Großpapa". I'm 62 and Italian, but I thank my parents, both fluent in German, for having taught me the Kurrentschrift (aka "Sütterlin" in a later form), when I was a young boy... Dear Sir, I would like to ask you a question that has nothing to do with this question. During the First World War, will soldiers and generals of the Austro-Hungarian Empire wear the medals and orders of the enemy countries (belligerents)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1812 , The answer is Yes and No . yes because they were not regulations at the beggining of the War to the matter , No because soon was decided that all the regimental Names were discarded due to the fact that many were of Monarchs of enemy Powers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1812 Overture Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 7 hours ago, Bayern said: 1812 , The answer is Yes and No . yes because they were not regulations at the beggining of the War to the matter , No because soon was decided that all the regimental Names were discarded due to the fact that many were of Monarchs of enemy Powers . OK, what about neutral countries? For example, Spain, Sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 All were abolished , but internally the Regiments continued to be referred with the old names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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