lilnuke Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 After searching through some old family boxes, I came across a picture to go with one of my bars. I have shared the bar before, but I would like to present Earnst Schöen in uniform wearing his awards. I hope everyone enjoys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottplen Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Wow that’s incredible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Hi, Congrats, what a nice bar you have and with photo. Have you got more information about your officer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackcowboyBS Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Very lovely bar and with a photo of the original owner of it, that is most impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Yes, very nice indeed. Can you post images of the KO4mS and the clasp on the colonial medal? I would also be interested to see the reverse of the bar. Are you sure on the spelling of this officer's name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackcowboyBS Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, VtwinVince said: Yes, very nice indeed. Can you post images of the KO4mS and the clasp on the colonial medal? I would also be interested to see the reverse of the bar. Are you sure on the spelling of this officer's name? I am pretty sure, that Ernst is correct and Earnst is just a typo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilnuke Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, BlackcowboyBS said: I am pretty sure, that Ernst is correct and Earnst is just a typo! Yes, sorry about that. This would be my great grandfather who died not to long after the war due to Influenza. I know he spent a fair amount of time in Africa and his family is from Lübeck. I have all of the documents to accompany the awards but that doesn't give me a lot of information on his life. As I go through old family boxes, I come across more and more little treasures. Perhaps I may find some more information as I search. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) It seems to be Ernst Friedrich Werner Schön: (1) Ancestry (2) Deutscher Ordensalmanach 1908/9 (3) Liste Kolonialdenkmünze (4) Preußen Rangliste 1914 (5) Königlich Preußische Ordensliste 1905, 2. Nachtrag Edited March 10, 2022 by Komtur 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, lilnuke said: Did he make Major (looking at his epaulettes)? What is the third decoration from the right? Thanks! Oh, wait, how stupid of me. Hanseatenkreuz Lübeck. I found this: Ernst Friedrich Werner (* 22. September 1875; † 30. Juni 1923), Direktor der Jäger-Rothe-Siemens-Werke ⚭ 1919 Olga Mascha Minlos (* 26. April 1897; † 29. November 1923) ... his wife died very young, only months after him. Maybe suicide? Edited March 11, 2022 by Deutschritter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Deutschritter said: Did he make Major (looking at his epaulettes)? ... Yes. Ehrenrangliste Preußen: Edited March 11, 2022 by Komtur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackcowboyBS Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Well, I have found a captain / Hauptmann Schön in the adressbook of Deutsch Ost Afrika from 1913. I have underlined his name, maybe he is your Ernst Schön. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) Please let me add for Werner Schön (after 1922 Schoen), also kaiserlich ottomanischer Oberstleutnant (he probably went around 1916 to Turkey after Africa?). His brother Hans Ludwig Ernst Schön, after 1922 Schoen, was allowed on 13 May 1925 to change his name in "Schoen von Wildenegg". This brother raised the two daughters (born 1920 and 1922) of our Major a. D., they also received the addition "Schoen von Wildenegg". Edited March 11, 2022 by Deutschritter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 This is a great Nachlass, please post images of the award documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 What about the last medal, I first thought the Imtiaz-Medaille in silver, but probably to small. Would it rather be the Silberne Liakat-Medaille? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilnuke Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 Thanks for all the great information! I have found both Schön and Schöen in family documents, but pretty sure it's Schön as found by Komtur. Family history has husband and wife dying of Influenza and the children were raised by relatives. I will post the award documents and some close-ups later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, lilnuke said: Thanks for all the great information! I have found both Schön and Schöen in family documents, but pretty sure it's Schön as found by Komtur. Family history has husband and wife dying of Influenza and the children were raised by relatives. I will post the award documents and some close-ups later. Thanks! Do you know in which Regiment he started with? You are the great-grandson ... who was your grandmother? Olga-Mascha Elisabeth Freya Johanna (later Gräfin zu Rantzau) or Barbara Margot Alice Laura Marie? If this is too personal, I would understand. Edited March 11, 2022 by Deutschritter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Andreas, Werner Schön was commissioned into Westfälisches Pionier-Bataillon Nr. 7. Sekonde-Lieutenant (18.10.97). Regards Glenn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Thank you, Glenn! 27 January 1908 Oberleutnant, 27 January 1913 Hauptmann. At some point he served with the 3. Rheinisches Pionier-Bataillon Nr. 30, I do not know if before his service in Turkey or afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilnuke Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 On 10/03/2022 at 11:27, VtwinVince said: Can you post images of the KO4mS and the clasp on the colonial medal? I have the bar mounted and a little difficult to get better pictures, hope these help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Wow, really impressiv! Do you know if the Turkish medal is the Imtiaz-Medaille in silver or the Silberne Liakat-Medaille? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arb Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Here is his career through the early days of the war as far as I can determine. His awards further clarify his assignments. 00.12.14 b. St. d. Res. Inf. R. 25 lei. verw. 09.08.14 in Pion. B. 30 angestellt 12.06.03-09.08.14 Schutztr. f. DOA [1907-1908 Adj.] 1903-12.06.03 in 1./Pion. B. 7 (Deutz) 15.07.01-1902 in 2./Pion. B. 7 (Deutz) 01.10.99-15.07.01 k.z. Art. u. Ing. Sch. 18.10.97-01.10.99 in 2./Pion. B. 7 (Deutz) 18.10.97 Sek.Lt. 22.03.97 Port. Fähnr. 18.07.96 in Pion. B. 7 eingetr. Hptm. 27-01-13 A3a Oberlt. 27-01-08 D2d Leutn. 18-10-97 Z4z Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschritter Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, arb said: 00.12.14 b. St. d. Res. Inf. R. 25 lei. verw. Thank you!!! I wonder, if he ever received the Verwundetenabzeichen? I would say yes, seeing he also received the EK I, the first picture (with Fez in hand) is before August 1918, maybe even 1917. Edited March 13, 2022 by Deutschritter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Thanks for the images, truly fantastic material. The documents are also first rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackcowboyBS Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 11/03/2022 at 18:13, Deutschritter said: What about the last medal, I first thought the Imtiaz-Medaille in silver, but probably to small. Would it rather be the Silberne Liakat-Medaille? Thanks! The osmanic medal is the silver Liakat Medal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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