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dond, April 17, 2005 in Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States
Another 2nd Class MVO
A very impressive piece to say the least, and thank you for showing it in such detail. Does the ribbon change from 3rd to 2nd class? I thought the white with blue strips was a peace time ribbon only?
I think the ribbon is for non combat but not certain
It is probably a silver-gilt piece. However, the cross body is mounted the wrong way round.
The lower widened edge of the cross arm must be on the back. Viele Grüße
Thanks but I don’t understand
I'll try it again.
For gilded medallions or MVOs, the edge of the lower cross arm is widened on the back.
As a result, it was immediately obvious that the 4th class of the MVO is not a real gold
medallion or the 3rd class gold plated MVOs. In this example, the widening of the lower
cross arm on the front can be seen. This should be correct on the back. As an example,
I want to show the back of a MVO 4th class with silvered medallions from 1917 onwards.
Here you can clearly see the broadening of the lower cross arm. Depending on the manufacturer,
this is sometimes less pronounced.
Left of the MVO with silver-gilt medallions from 1917 until the end of the war,
on the right the MVO with three-part real gold medallions until the end of 1916.
Here is an example from eMedals. Note that the wider edge of the lower cross arm is on the reverse, as waldo says it should be. On yours, the jeweler must have accidentally flipped the cross when he mounted the swords and center medallions.
It’s an original MVO isnt it?
Yes, just apparently a mistake by the Weiss & Co. jeweler who assembled it.
Hello, I can not imagine that this MVO was delivered to Weiss so.
It may be that he was later repaired and assembled incorrectly.
Good morning to all
As proof this photo, not always the medals were correctly mounted.
see Sachsen, Albrechtsorden, Großkreuz mit Schwertern
Gemeral d.Art. a.D. Nehbel
LOL, great photo. That is surely the result of a repair.
just recieved from the family today, no box, just the blue wrapping paper. I think this may be a 1914-15 award, or it belongs to a different family member.....
Very nice. This is a late production of Hemmerle (1918) with silver guilt medaillon. I have never seen blue paper.
Normally this cross was in a red paperbox. The first class was awarded to the rank Feldwebel-Leutnant.
Maybe they had run out of red boxes by the time this was made :-)
Here is his cousins MVO
Hello Chris, the MVKs and MVOs were invariably handed out in cases. Reason for that was the return obligation.
Thus, the MVOs and MVks were always stored safely and were rarely returned damaged. The blue bag
would have to come from an EK or from an honor cross for front fighters
The only option I see in a private purchase. Since the original would have been returned
in the case after death and the privately procured piece could have been in a bag.
I guess that is possible, there have been 100 years for the family to mix things up in the box.
It was probably in the packet to protect it from scratches.
The MVO is a early Hemmerle with golden medaillon.
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