coldstream Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 And a close up of the Waldeck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Another beautiful bar!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinpon590 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 A Friedrich Bathildis medal :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitze Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Hello,after a long dry periode I was able to get my hands on this A Waldeck Non-Com-Bar with Verdienstkreuz 4. class and Friedrich-Bathildis-Medal.The FB medal is a so called "Spangenst?ck" with Ring-suspension and without maker`s mark. The awarded pieces look like the one above shown by Pinpon or my own (see number 66 in this thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitze Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 And the reverse.greetingseitze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Ah . If somebody would work on the CIVIL "non swords" awards rolls, that would probably be identifiable. Great array of home service/war effort awards to a HIGHLY decorated person. THREE states' war merit awards... just great! :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitze Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I assume that the owner of the bar wasn`t Herr Damm - Flaschenbierh?ndler (Beer Bottle Dealer) zu Bad Wildungen, who was awarded the FB-Medal on 02.08.1917 With the help of the roll for the FBM we know, that most of the recipients were nurses, Red Cross people and a lot of women.The medal was awarded 314 times.Perhaps we can identify the owner of the Spange sometime in the future.greetingseitze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beau Newman Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I noticed in Post #38 that Wild Card showed a great little group with a Waldeck Military Verdienst Cross, 2nd Class. The military version did not have the black enameled starburst at the center and had a crowned "GV" on a red background instead of a cross on a white background. The regular VKs and military VKs are easily confused. Here is an example of the 3rd Class Military VK.http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2009/post-6181-1235358777.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2009/post-6181-1235358811.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) Beau Newman said: Here is an example of the 3rd Class Military VK. Nice one, I think they're quite rare. And here's one in wear, on an anonymious Bavarian Leutnant or Oberleutnant from LIR Munich in 1898 (sorry, I have no Bavarian rank list): Edited August 5, 2022 by saschaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Wretched soft focus bad quality sepia!!!! Still, the freakishly unique is no problem for Research Gnomes. Maximilian PECHTborn 1858SL 24.05.80PL 01.10.90Hptm 09.01.95/06.11.94Maj 04.08.02OTL 22.12.06Oberst 07.03.09 retiring by 1913 as commander of bavarian Inf Rgt 13Generalmajor zDkilled in action 06.11.1916 Levesti, Romania as commander of Bavarian 22. Inf Brig.world war: BMV2X, WK2bX, (EKs ), pre-war: BMV-O, BMV3, BMV4a, RAO3, WMVK3, 1905, XXIV, ?EK2, ?FJ2mSt. Had nothing much until the last 4 years of his peacetime career when most of that stuff just fell on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) Wow, that guy made it to Generalmajor? Great additions to the photo, and thanks again. Edited August 5, 2022 by saschaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Killed in action as a Generalmajor zD. I don't have numbers, but combat losses of German Generals in the First war were NOTHING like those of the Second! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Killed in action as a Generalmajor zD. I don't have numbers, but combat losses of German Generals in the First war were NOTHING like those of the Second!Quite right, I heard a figure of something like ten generals KIA in WW1, whereas something like 200 were killed in WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitze Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I can add the first name of a holder of a Silver Merit Medal with X You`ll find him in the new Waldeck Roll on page 92. It is one of the Zimmermann`s :Karl Hermann Zimmermann - Unteroffizier, Garde Dragoner Regiment 23.Medal awarded: 14.12.1914.And here`s the story:I was able to get No. 14 of the war magazine called "Feinde ringsum!", dated around 1915. This number told the story of the death of Prince Wolrad of Waldeck-Pyrmont.At the outbreak of WW-1 Prince Wolrad was a Leutnant in the Gro?herzoglich-Hessische Gardedragonerregiment Nr. 23On the evening of the 17. 10.1914 he was the leader of a cavalry patrol. He was accompanied by his aide Unteroffizier Karl Hermann Zimmermann of the same Regiment. Suddenly the patrol came under fire of advancing English troops.Several Dragoner fell and the horse of Prince Wolrad was also hit. He together with Zimmermann reached a nearby trench and searched for cover. It was then Prince Wolrad saw one of his wounded man lying in the open. He crawled to him and tried to pull him to safety. Crying for Zimmermann, this crawled forward and was immediately hit - so was the Prince!Prince Wolrad was killed in action, while Zimmermann was only wounded.The award of the SVM with X must have been for his part on this sad day for Waldeck.Here?s the cover of the magazine and the special edition of the Waldecker Regierungs-Blatt announcing the death of Prince Wolrad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitze Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 And here you`ll find a picture of Prince Wolrad of Waldeck-Pyrmont.I have no ideas of uniforms, but I think this could be the one of the Garde Dragoner Regiment 23 ???greetingseitze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 SUPER news!!!! Finding detail like you have discovered on an Unteroffizier is about as likely as winning the lottery-- THANKS!!!!! :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitze Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 My latest - just arrived yesterday Another nice non-com bar. It is my first Landwehr Dienstauszeichnungs-Kreuz. With its golden (?) center it looks quite spectacular! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitze Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 And the reverse.greetingseitze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitze Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Hello,I was able to get a book about the Hessian and Waldeck "Elementary School Teachers Association", published 1919.It is called:"Der Hessische Volksschullehrerverein - seine Entstehung, sein Werden und Wirken w?hrend des letzten Halbjahrhunderts - Ehrenbusch der hessischen und waldeckischen Volksschule".No, I am not interested in teachers history , but in the second part of the book. The "Ehrenbuch" lists all killed teachers of Hessen and Waldeck, who were soldiers during WW-1.I`ve checked for members of Inf. Regiment 83, the Waldeck unit, and found a lot of them, including some people who got decorations from Waldeck-Pyrmont.So grab your Roth-Krause-Lundstr?m book about the Orders and Decorations of Waldeck and I can give you some more details of 8 mentioned men. You can also add some first names and units.Let?s start:Page 19:Vesper, DanielBorn in Nordkirchen/Waldeck. Joined the InfRgt. 83 and fought at the Somme.After becoming Leutnat he went to the InfRgt. 91.Was also awarded the EK ? 2. class.He was KIA on 23.03.1917 by a grenade.Page 13 and 24:G?bel, KarlBorn on 08.04.1895 in Alraft/Waldeck.Joined with the F-Kolonne 126 and later served with the InfRgt. 167 and 371.And finally becoming Leutnant d.R. and leader of the 1. Masch.-Gewehr-Kompanie.Was awarded the GVM (11.12.1916) and after commissoned the Waldeck Verdienst Kreuz 4. class (17.05.1918) and also the EK ? 2. class.He was KIA on 25.10.1918 near Valenciennes and buried at the military cemetary at Poisin/Belgium.On page 13 he is the second ?Goebel?Page 25:Itter, CyriakusBorn on 14.02.1887 in Kirchberg.He joined the Res.Inf.Rgt. 83 and was a VFw and Officer Candidat.Was also awarded the EK ? 2. class.He was KIA on 10.12.1914 while attacking the town of Natolin in Russia and buried in the garden of a peasant in the named town.Page 32:Beckord, ArnoldBorn in Pyrmont/Waldeck.He joined the Inf.Rgt. 73 and later transferred to the RJ?gBat 23.Was a Officer candidat.He was KIA on 08.10.1916 in Siebenb?rgen/Rumania by a shot in the head.Also awarded the EK ? 2. class.Page 37:Bunse, FritzBorn 15.12.1898 in Helmighausen/Waldeck.Joined with the 1. Garde Res.Inf.Rgt..Also awarded the EK ? 2. class.Was KIA on 21.03.1918 near Arras and is buried at St. ?court.Page 52:Hetschold, HeinrichLater becoming a Leutant d.R. and was KIA in the autunm 1917.Page 54:Hollenstein, AugustWas born in Helmighausen/Waldeck.Joined with the RIR 235 and was WIA on 26.11.1914 by a shot through the shoulder. Again seriously wounded on 19.07.1915 by a grenade in the back.As a result he was paralyzed. Brought back to the hospital in Arolsen/Waldeck, he died there on 01.05.1916 and was buried in that town.Also awarded the EK.Page 84:Stracke, HeinrichBorn 09.02.1895 in Rhadern/Waldeck.Joined with the RIR 234 and was seriously wounded on 15.04.1915 in Flandern.Again seriously wounded on 20.07.1918 by a grenade, he died on 25.07.1918 in Feldlazarett No. 15.Also awarded the EK ? 2. class. On page 84 he is the last ?Stracke, Heinr.?.Hope you enjoy it.greetingseitze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Excellent!!!! Such obscure sources are vital to the work of the Research Gnomes!!!! MANY thanks! Here is Hetschold's "Ehrenmal" entry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 My latest - just arrived yesterday Another nice non-com bar. It is my first Landwehr Dienstauszeichnungs-Kreuz. With its golden (?) center it looks quite spectacular!Hi Eitzeyou must have acquired quite a collection of Waldeck ribbon and medalbars. I am sure not only I would be interested in a 1 photo overview (which would have to look really spectacular!!)regardsDavid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitze Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Hi Eitzeyou must have acquired quite a collection of Waldeck ribbon and medalbars. I am sure not only I would be interested in a 1 photo overview (which would have to look really spectacular!!)regardsDavidHello David,I`ve shown all my Waldeck stuff in this thread.A photo overview would be nice, but the problem is, that nearly all bars and better pieces are in my bank safe But - perhaps sometimes.greetingseitze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Hello David,I`ve shown all my Waldeck stuff in this thread.A photo overview would be nice, but the problem is, that nearly all bars and better pieces are in my bank safe But - perhaps sometimes.greetingseitzeUnderstandably. if I had such jewels, I would put them in a bank safe as well :-)regardsDavid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitze Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Today I can add some new stuff.Let`s start with two postcards of members of the "F?rstenhaus".Here we have Prinz Josias of Waldeck-Pyrmont with awarded EK-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitze Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 And second F?rst Friedrich of Waldeck-Pyrmont in field uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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