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Your Körner does not match!!! Below you will find the "Stammrolle" of paymaster Otto Körner! Paymaster Körner has received his DA 1 before 1902 and a KO4 for retirement is not untypical for a paymaster! Also not for a saxon paymaster in colonial service? You wrote also: "Then you have an Austrian Gold Merit Cross with Crown on War Ribbon... typically awarded to German field surgeons serving in the Southern Theater and the Balkans during WW1. " Really?? There were also for example some awards to members of the navy cabinet in Berlin...... Regards

Hello all, I can only confirm that vFritsch received his award, see the last two columns! Best wishes

Your photo shows still a MVK-ribbon! The inner stripe is yellow and in the most cases it is black on a b/w photos. Furthermore the third white stripe is missing on your photo! white_black_white_red_white and the yellow inner stripe. I don´t think that your photo is a pre WW1-photo.....

Confirmed! Definetly a MVK ribbon Nice Photo Andreas?!!! Extremly rare with all commemorative medals for all colonial/china conflicts Kind regards

Here you can see his pre-1914-bar! He had the battle clasps Liang-Hsiang-Hsien and Nan-Hung-Men which are missing on your ribbon-bar. Best wishes

Bundesarchiv https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de Kind regards

Here a lot of Meyer´s and some more with late award dates (from May till November 1918) kind regards

some more details to Jensen: Award date 2nd May 1918 Regards Is it the same Heck?? Award date of 4th September 1918 does not match with the date of "Die Presse, 3.7.1918" Kind regards

Hello Daniel, here are some more details for Hptm Heinemann Award date was the 7th July 1918. Kind regards Should it be him? Award date was 18th July 1918 Kind regards Should be him: Award date 4th September 1918 Kind regards

Hello all, I have found some more details for vHadeln: vHadeln received also the GSF3bX for his duty in German-Southwestafrika in WW1. Kind regards

Hello Andreas, correct and very nice congrats! regards Karsten

Sorry, misunderstanding. So please delete my posting here Regards

I think that picture will fit here quite weill Best regards Karsten

I have to agree because it seems that there is a civilian (?) in the background.... ....someone is wearing a summer hat, see attachment. Best regards Karsten

Hello, I think here´s another example for black ribboned EK for service on the homefront but in this case for a marine-guy. Marine-Oberingenieur der Seewehr II. Otto He was member of "Schiffsbesichtigungskommission Hamburg" and he received the black ribboned EK and "Hamburger Hanseatenkreuz" in December 1915. Finally the department celebrated the receipt of both awards for Marine-Oberingenieur Otto at the end of December, which was called "Ordensfest". It exist also one document which is connected to that celebration. There is mentioned in a lyrical notion for what Otto received both awards: "Hgb(= Hamburg) 28.12.1915 Hier mit meiner Schuppen-Horde. Schweißgebadet bei der Arbeit, Als mit Hebel, Krahn und Balken, Wir die 100000 Dinge die im kunterbuten Wirwar Man uns in den Schoß geworfen Sehr korrekt zur Ordnung brachten" We can translate that lyrical parts that he was responsible for some gaffs. His principal duty was to handling one hundred thousands things (I think military goods) and to put them in order! For that duty Marine-Oberingenieur der Seewehr II. Otto received the black ribboned EK and "Hanseatenkreuz Hamburg" So in my opion another nice example for black ribboned EK for service on the homefront ? In case of the department "Schiffsbesichtigungskommission" I found below informations: "Bei der Mobilmachung ergänzte sich die Schiffsbesichtigungskommission durch einen Stab von Offizieren des Beurlaubtenstandes der Marine, die in den verschiedenen Häfen als Requisitionsoffiziere, Ausrüstungsleiter, Bemannungsleiter und Transportleiter die Ausrüstung und Bemannung der Hilfsschiffe nach den dafür gegebenen Vorschriften durchführten. Technische Mitglieder der Kommission prüften die Betriebsfähigkeit der Maschinenanlagen und Sicherheitsvorrichtungen, überwachten die technischen Einrichtungsarbeiten und sorgten für das Vorhandensein der erforderlichen Betriebsmaterialien. Sanitätsoffiziere und Verwaltungsbeamte richteten den Lazarett- und Verwaltungsdienst ein." "In the mobilization, the Ship Inspection Commission was supplemented by a staff of officers from the Navy's leave of absence, who carried out the equipment and manning of the auxiliary vessels in the various ports as requisition officers, equipment managers, crew managers and transport managers in accordance with the regulations. Technical members of the Commission checked the operational capability of the machinery and safety equipment, supervised the technical equipment work and ensured the presence of the necessary operating materials. Paramedics and administrative officers set up the hospital and administrative service." Source: https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/deutsch/archiv/weltkampf/wer0723.html In 1918 Marine-Oberingenieur der Seewehr II receveid the "FAK2" for combatants! Otto was all the time member of SBK and technical member of shipbuilding in E (Emden?) according to "Ehrenrangliste der Kaiserlichen Deutschen Marine 1914-1918". It seems that he never had left Germany during the wartime. Best regards Karsten