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:jumping: Yes - damn nice! Rare, unique design, well executed.... That’s what it’s all about. Congratulations! Wild Card

A truly unique and beautiful chain of typical Godet high quality. Congratulations! :cheers:

Hi Jonas E, I have seen a surprising number of Guelphic miniatures over the years; but I must say that yours is one of the most finely executed pieces that I have ever seen. Even though, for all practices, the awarding of this order virtually ceased in 1866, as I indicated, miniatures of it were quite popular. Like EK minis, the quality of Guelphic minis ranges from the good to the bad to the ugly; and as I said, you have one of the best. Congratulations! Wild Card

Relax Gentlemen. To some of us old timers, being referred to as “... who appear to be a bit young?”, this is a rare compliment that I will take any time. In the end, what we seem to have here is a piece that the owner has conceded to not being an original/issue cross. At best, it is indeed a Spangenstuck which opens up endless possibilities. But Gentlemen, I have a question - What are we talking about here!?! In case no one has noticed, the bar presented here (post #2) is mounted in the frak, or reverse, form. The bar originally presented on the WAF in the thread titled “Imperial Group of Five - help please” (post #1) is mounted in the standard (left to right) form. That does it. Thanks for the compliment, have fun with this one Gentlemen; but to quote Samuel Goldwyn “Include me out”. Regards, Wild Card

:speechless1: Wow! How about that! I would never have guessed... a Red Eagle no less. Thank you Mike. :cheers:

Hello Noor, Here is what I see. 1. Württemberg. Gold or silver merit medal. This is a real guess. 2. Württemberg. Long service cross. 3. Prussia. 1870-71 war medal, combatant. 4. Württemberg. 1866 war medal. 5. Württemberg. King Karl 25 year jubilee medal. I look forward to finding out what #6 is. Regards, Wild Card

Hello Peter J, The metal button would be inserted in the buttonhole on the lapel of the coat, or jacket, with the securing pin placed to align the medals in line with the outside edge of the lapel. This would follow the alignment of a frak bar; hence the reverse precedence. Best wishes, Wild Card

Hi Chris Boonzaier, I get your point, but in reality that would mainly depend upon circumstances and events around him post 1916. To your question, the minimum? A silver bravery medal... and an EK2. Best wishes, Wild Card

A wonderful collection of some extremely rare pieces! Congratulations :cheers:

Now that has to be the most complete group that I have ever seen. Congratulations Claudio, you have raised collecting to a higher level. Wild Card :cheers:

By any standard, this is one truly impressive group. :jumping:

Claudius, You have brought up a topic that I have long pondered which I think is best answered, in part, by Komtur’s response. If you think about it, people often had so many decorations that it precluded all of them being worn on a single bar at one time*. Aside from decorations from other German states, there were those from foreign countries which, depending on one’s service, could amount to quite a lot; and more likely than not, the occasion would arise where any of them should be worn. So what does one do? 1. Dismantle your bar and remount it with the appropriate decorations. 2. Have a spare bar, or bars, on hand with the appropriate “other” decorations and spangenstück on those spare bars for the ones that are on your regular bar. I think that this is the main reason. 3. Have several “clip on” ribbon bars made up and move the decorations from bar to bar as needed. Unfortunately, except for the old style trapezoids, from my observations this type of bar seems to have been pretty much confined to Bavaria. 4. This is clever. George Seymour had a bar made up of two parts held together in the middle by two hinges. The left half had the decorations which would essentially be worn on any occasion, while the right half had foreign and other state awards. Possibly, there was more than one right side section. *Thinking about this leads me to ask a question. Has anyone ever seen evidence of an Imperial German officer wearing more than one row of decorations? Thank you for bringing this subject up Claudius and best wishes, Wild Card

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Gentlemen, I have long admired this decoration, but have never been lucky enough to have one. Beyond that though, I never realized that there are so many variations. Thank you all for your contributions which have made this thread so interesting and informative. Best wishes, Wild Card

You are a fortunate man! :cheers:

Quite an unusual bar to be sure. I suppose that it could be worth that much to someone with a specialized interest.

:speechless1: Congratulations! :beer:

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And if you don't have medal bar, just wear something else there instead! :lol: :lol:

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My guess is - Hannover, 1898 Queen Marie Jubilee medal and Langensalza medal. I am open to any other ideas,

I have long wondered about this little fellow who unfortunately came without his medals.

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:jumping: They come in all sizes