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Good work, nice update.

Which one - Waldeck or Reuss? If these are Waldeck awards, he'll probably have served with the 3rd Garde-Ulanen, who were in Finland in 1918. See this thread: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/9513-waldeck-and-finnland/

That is an interesting question! Certainly no PLM winner. Of the "big" WW1 decorations, we have Hans Speidel with the Golden Military Merit Medal from Württemberg. But if you take BW and NVA together, it seems the most likely candidate would be NVA General Walter Freytag who got the HHOX. I didn't spot a BW officer with HHOX, but maybe I missed someone.

Very interesting! The last ribbon should be the Messina 1908 earthquake medal. I haven't seen this one before, but it must have been an early, pre-WW1 bar to Marine Oberstabs-Ingenieur Albert Trenkler, who was on SMS Hertha in 1908. More information and his other, post-WW1 bars here: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/5021-help-needed-for-a-lost-name http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/18425-ribbon-and-medal-bar-of-fregkp-wilhelm-peters/#entry177978 Regards Chris

Here is another interesting case. An Oberstleutnant wearing both the 25 and the 40 years civil service decoration in 1944 (only one could be worn):

No, can't be. The time frame just doesn't fit.

Yes, very nice bar. Wehrmacht Heer service, 12-17 years by 1939. Not in Reichsheer. It will be difficult, but when the new Hohenzollern HHOX comes out, maybe there is a slight chance of ID'ing him...

Great research! I can't wait to see the new volume listing the HHOX awards!

I agree. That would have been my second guess, too. Clearly not Olympic.

Can you provide a better close-up of the Generalarbeitsfuehrer wearing the neck cross? I believe this is neither a PLM nor a RKKVK. To me, it looks rather like an Olympic Decoration 1st class. (null)

This is ridiculous! I've been buying bars from Stogieman for many years. He NEVER sold fakes! Ask anyone here.

Rick! So glad to see you here! Xmas AND Easter! :jumping:

Some years have passed, and I might have a suspect for this bar: Christian Blunck His RVO4 was gazetted 12th August 1904 in the London Gazette. He is listed in the DOA 1908/09 as "Ober- und Geheimer Baurat bei der Eisenbahndirektion Königsberg" with the following awards: Oldenburg OV3a PrRAO4 PrKO3 British RVO4 and a Swedish North Star Order, Knight ("SchwdN3"). Yes, obviously this is not on his bar. The Russian St. Anne he may well have received after 1908, indeed quite plausible since he was posted to Königsberg near the Russian border later. I see two possibilities for the Swedish award: 1) Mistake by the publisher; it should read SchwdN2b - a neck/commander cross. 2) The SchwdN3 was upgraded to Commander after 1908. Regards Chris

Is the letter dated? There is something at the top right, but hard to read. Well I have no doubts now about this bar! Maybe the bar was expanded by that someone (first name Otto) even after Immelmann's death. A great piece of history! (null)

WOW! This is most spectacular! In this letter, Immelmann thanks someone for an "Ordensschnalle" which that someone apparently made for him, but says he wanted only a "Feld-Ordensschnalle" (small ribbon bar). (null)

According to O'Connor, Immelmann got his Anhalt Friedrich eight days before his death. It would have been a very short time for him to wear this bar. Also, why is his Imtiaz medal not on the bar? I just wonder if this bar was maybe made by an admirer. (null)

I can exclude Edelmann, Klitzsch, Leonhardi and most probably Vogel as well. No matches in the 1939 ranklist. It should be Oberst Georg Harz, seniority 1.4.1942, WBK Auerbach, in 1939 Major (E), #1.9.1935 at WBK Dessau.

Unbelievable! I would not have thought this is traceable and unique. Great work!

Most probably not a Reserve/Landwehr guy. The others must be checked for matching service times and other awards.

It is possible, yes. On second thought, why would a cheapo have an expensive Frackspange. Good point, Dave.

Another possibility is he had a German NECK order...

Great research! As always! :jumping: All the best Chris

I think Matt is right here. The ribbon bar predates the full Frackspange, as the Kriegshilfe/ War Aid Cross from 1918 is also missing. This type of ribbon bar started to be used in 1915, so it can be dated between 1915 and 1918. The owner was probably a cheapo who wanted to reuse his old ribbon bar and just put the EK ribbon on top. Godet would have done a better job on that first ribbon; it is indeed sticking out a bit. Very interesting, you rarely see this. Regards Chris

Very nice ribbon bar BUT -- this officer was NOT in the Reichswehr. He had between 12 and 17 years of service in total. Anyone with WW1 service and continuous time in the Reichswehr (1914-1939, and most entered service well before that!) ended up with more than 25 years of service. So, unfortunately, you can rule out all of the above... :banger:

Ahh yes, that is Oberstleutnant aD Theodor Ernst von Bomhard, born 20.2.1874, died 15.06.1938. He was the younger son of General Theodor Karl Eduard and Felix' uncle.