Daniel Krause

Every officer had to serve at least 3 years in th "frontline" before he could apply for the War Academy. There they took around 1910 the best 120 Lt / 1st Lt per Year. You had 4 times a chance to apply. After the 3 years in the War Academy the General staff took the best 20 of a year to a 2-3 years command to the General staff. The best ones from them were taken directly over after their command and promoted to Captain. The other ones who did not qualify for the General staff went normally in the Adjutant service, Division and later Corps level. Nearly all the General staffers and Adjutants served as well for a time in nearly every level of frontline service like their "mortal" colleagues. Every Captain got Company, every Major a Bataillon, every Colonel a Regiment and a Major General a brigade. The higher promotions are quite easy. You did not have to serve until whatever retirement age as it is nowadays in Germany, You could always retire with the pension You earned until then. The big mass of frontline officers retired as Captain or Major after around 25 Years of service. For the frontline guys who stayed in I would say 6-8 years as Major, 3-4 as Half-Colonel, 2 as full Colonel. General staffer got promoted around 2 years earlier to LtCol and maybe 1 year earlier to Col. From that grade it could go very fast, all 2 years a promotion until the rank of General der Infanterie / Artillerie / Kavallerie. This rank could easily last for 8 Years and was regularly the end of th line. There are just a handful of guys who made Generaloberst or Field Marshal. Best regards Daniel

o.k., as I see it is SOLD to Your Father I can come with the name: Korvettenkapit?n Eugen Schoch, born 1879 With the right tools 5 minutes to ID him and 10 more to prove it. DOA 08 Navy 14 Navy 18 Roth Baden 14-18 Markus Bodeux phantastic Navy Verordnungsblatt work in the German SDA Best regards Daniel

Hi Sascha, I have the name. Best regards Daniel

He was a "Fast Track" General staffer. Promotion time was 9 years as a 2nd Lt, 4-5 years as 1st Lt, 10-12 years as Captain for "normal front line Officers". The General staffers won around 5 years in the promotion to Major. Best regards Daniel

The only Langenschwarz I see in the 08/09 edition is this one: Best regards Daniel

@ Ulsterman, actually I see a Hohenzollern there, similar like my one here: Best regards Daniel

Christophe, You are great!!!! Best regards Daniel

Christophe, that great!!!!! Thanks a lot! Best regards Daniel

Hi Ulsterman, thanks a lot! I wish all the Regimental histories would be as perfect as this one!!! Best regards Daniel

Hi Friends, I want to bring this theme back to top and to ask again for assistance. Who can show Hohenzollern documents? I?m especially interested in late 1918 awards and awards to guys with more-than-common names like M?ller or Lehmann. At the moment I have already more than 300 additional names than Willi Geile had in his first Hohenzollern roll from the mid-90ies. Best regards Daniel

Yup, Rick is right, for the war 1866 ONE HOH3X on the non-com ribbon was awarded to Otto F?rst zu Stolberg-Wernigerode. Otherwise there have been exactly TWO awards of the knights cross without swords on the war ribbon. Best regards Daniel

Hi, I think this is a perceft example to show the limits of an ID. I?m absolutely sure it is a guy with a quite common name like Lehmann, M?ller or a noble one with dozens of cousins in the Army. The awards might be all listed in the known rolls, Hohenzollern, Bayern, Sachsen, (W?rttemberg follows later), Weimar, Ernestiner, but we cannot put the info together because WHICH of the plenty Captains M?ller or Major v.B?low could it be... Best regards Daniel

Hi Igor, no, earlier. Entered maybe well before 1848, finished armed service latest in 1870 - no 1870 medal on the bar, maybe already before 1866, as well no cross for the war on his chest. I would suppose the long service brooch is a 2nd class in silver, means 15 years of active service. As plenty of NCO?s left after 12 or some more years of service to get a job in the civil life, this guy probably went in service of the court and earned the remaining awards there. It would be a good thing, if any of the Uniform experts could ID the Uniform. Best regards Daniel

Hi Igor, did You buy the pic? Niiiiice one of probably a member of the Kings personnel staff in an NCO level. I have no idea about the uniform, I?m a medals guy... - Prussian Hohenzollern Members cross, this is the highest peacetime award an NCO level guy could ever get, for a type close to the king it was easier - Prussian General Honor award, normally given after about 25 years of service - Prussian 1848-1850 Commemorative Medal, for all soldiers which did honorary serve in the revolutionary time 18148-1850 - Baden 1849 Commemorative Medal, the so-called "Brother murder medal", from Baden given out to the troops which broke down the revolution in Baden - Russian St.Anne Medal, probably given in connection to a visit of the Czar in Germany All in all a very nice decorated man! Best regards Daniel

Actually this type of ribbon bars was handmade for only a very selected group of the top of the uniformed services. The usual soldier even up to LtGen?s have worn the cheap plastic / paper junk. Just a few people bought the expensive cloth / metal bars from the DDR Mint. The thing with DDR ribbon bars is always, that there was plenty of leftover stocks and even in the early 90ies the production for the collectors market was going on. Best regards Daniel

Now I have a pic!!! best regards Daniel

2nd OSA Dr.Erich Kiesewalter 3rd KL / GenLt Gustav Siess 5th LtCol Erich Steinhausen 4th is a chanceless thing, the 1st drives me still crazy..... Best regards Daniel

Hi Ricky, niiice one!!! Send it to me please, I have some "borthers" laying around.. Still no face for him. Best regards Daniel

Hi, forget it. Usual new fraud from partly original stocks. The Combo is so unlikely... All 4 classes of the Vaterl?ndische Verdienstorden, but just a bronze Kampforden, not a single Banner der Arbeit. Best regards Daniel

Hi Solomon, what about a Braunschweig award? Ribbon would match. Best regards Daniel

Hi, interesting thread! Here my small contribution with 6 devices: from the Med. Militaire I?m sure it is as well an NCO. Best regards Daniel

Hi Stogie, thanks a lot!!! German eBay? Nice to see him wearing exactly the bar which was shown years ago in an old German Article about the Wtbg. lifesaving medal. Best regards Daniel

Hi, Info from Andy Baus: Willy Schneider 27.01.13-1914 Chef 5./Inf. R. 131 (M?rchungen) 01.07.11-27.01.13 in 1./Inf. R. 57 (Wesel) 01.10.08-01.07.11 k.z. Kriegsakademie v. Inf. R. 57 1905-01.10.08 Erzieher a.d. Kadettenhaus Bensberg, mit Uniform d. Inf. R. 57 1902-1904 Adjutant d. III. Batl./Inf. R. 57 (Wesel) 1902 in 1./Inf. R. 57 (Wesel) 1901 in 2./Inf. R. 57 (Wesel) 1899-1900 in 9./Inf. R. 57 (Wesel) 27.01.98-1898 in 1./Inf. R. 57 (Wesel) Hauptmann 27-01-13 Oberlt. 21-04-08 Leutn. 27-01-98 Best regards Daniel

Hi Komtur, nice pic! Georg M?ller was in Reserve Field Artilery Regiment 23. Received SA3bX 31.07.15 and SH3 30.11.15 during the war acc. to the Saxon rolls. If I do not forget I bring You his St.Henry citation on Friday. Best regards Daniel

goodness, I?m not sure what is more attractive, the uniform or the wearer Best regards Daniel