Alex K Posted April 22, 2007 Posted April 22, 2007 Hi yet another award in my collection, I believe it to the the Order of Military Merit 6th class. Does this have the correct ribbon? and secondly, I have seen other pieces which have the Cypher on the obverse central medallion, My piece has a tricolour enamelled centre, as they only differ in the central medallion, would this identify any specific period that it would have been awarded?Thanks for any inputregardsAlex K
Carol I Posted April 22, 2007 Posted April 22, 2007 I have seen other pieces which have the Cypher on the obverse central medallion, My piece has a tricolour enamelled centre, as they only differ in the central medallion, would this identify any specific period that it would have been awarded?That would identify it as a "Regency issue" from the end of WWII.
922F Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 This could be either a "regency" (1944-6) or "republic" (1946-50) issue Bulgarian Military Merit Order piece. The two major recent (post-2000) Bulgarian texts (Denkov and Petrov) illustrate this type. Some claim the "regency" issue retains the crown over the obverse center lion's head while "republic" types omit it--yours seems not to have a crown. I'd suppose the availability of insignia components would really determine the manufacturing date and "regency"/"republic" issue. Your piece has a Bulgarian Balkan War comm. medal ribbon. "Republic" badges supposedly were issued with Bulgarian Civil Merit Order ribbon [utilizing Bulgaria's national red/green/white colors] replacing the "Czarist/Coburg" black/white/yellow ribbon usually seen on Bulgarian Military Merit Order insignia. Balkan War medal ribbon colors certainly reflect Bulgaria's national colors. Some "regency"/"republic" Military Merit Order badges came on the market without ribbons; vendors added whatever was at hand. Besides their Axis partners, the Bulgarians presented "republic" WW II-related decorations to a number of Allied personnel as late as 1950. Documents for these awards, especially for the Military Merit Order named to Russians, appear on eBay from time to time.
Carol I Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Besides their Axis partners, the Bulgarians presented "republic" WW II-related decorations to a number of Allied personnel as late as 1950. Documents for these awards, especially for the Military Merit Order named to Russians, appear on eBay from time to time.Interesting piece of information. I was under the impression that no awards of the old orders were made in the first years of the republic and that the republican issues were only made to replace the royal insignia.
Alex K Posted May 14, 2007 Author Posted May 14, 2007 Hi 922F, interesting information, so in effect you are saying the correct ribbon would be the attached?regardsAlex
922F Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 Hello Gentlemen,First, Alex, your pictured ribbon 'candidate' is basically correct if you consider your piece a 1946-1950 Bulgarian "republic" award. I outline a likely slight color variation below. However, if you identify the item as a 1944-46 "regency" decoration, the "usual" Bulgarian Military Merit Order white-black-yellow ribbon would be appropriate. Dragomir Acovic, of Belgrade, noted these insignia changes in writings first available in "the West" as early as the late 1970s. He later published this information, in the early-mid 1980s, but I don't have his correspondence or book to hand now to provide exact information/dates. The Bulgarian "regency" was established after Boris III's death to "administer" the country before Simeon's coming of age. As in other nations, a more-or-less "bourgeois republic" was the transition from the "regency" until the communists openly and formally took control of Bulgaria.To restate: Bulgar "regency" [1944-46] Military Merit Order ribbon is the same color/design as that used for Bulgarian Czarist Military Merit Order ribbon. I describe "regency" authorized insignia design changes below.The 1946-1950 Bulgar "republic" Military Merit Order ribbon is the same as the 1891-1950 Bulgar Civil Merit Order {c.f. Acovic, Todor Petrov "Orders & Medal of Bulgaria" Sofia, 2000, pix on page 131, cite: Council of Ministers Decree 18 of 18 July 47; T. Petrov, "Bulgarian Orders and Medals", Sofia, 2005 p 129, same cite; P. Pavlov "Bulgarian Orders and Medals" Sofia, 2002, p 131 text, photos p 146 ff.. I don't have Denkov's book handy but he reports the same ribbon and design changes. Worth noting--this ribbon stock, like much post-1936 Bulgarian Civil Merit Order stock, uses lighter green and purple shades that the pre-1936 stock. The piece of ribbon you illustrate has the older color value.} The "republic" estabished insignia changes, described below, as well.Same sources report [seemingly as part of a 1944 and the 1946 Decrees] a mandated replacement of Ferdinand's cypher (obverse medallion center) with the Bulgar lion--sometimes displaying a crown above the lion's head <"regency"?>, sometimes without <"republic?">--(former reverse center). At the same time, an (enameled) Bulgarian tricolor took the (czarist) reverse center lion medallion position. Why? So far, no information but maybe to distinguish "regency" and "republic" issued Military Merit Order awards.Besides altering insignia centers and changing the ribbon color, "republic" issues of Civil Merit and Military Merit Orders (plus the St. Alexander Order, merit and lifesaving etc. awards) swapped out Czarist Bulgarian suspension crowns [for insignia that had them] for an unenamelled wreath comprised of oak leaves and roses. Some pieces that would (should?) have had a suspension crown or wreath, like commander or grand cross badges, lack any kind of intervening element and just have a suspension loop. "On-the-Spot" alterations to czarist insignia probably explain these types. Ebay vendors offer insignia with all these variations from time to time. Victor Baychev, among others, also offers such items on his website. Secondly, in addition to "regency" and "republic" military awards, others including Bulgarian and foreign civil servants, the 1950 Yugoslav National Literary and Nobel Prize winner, diplomats, and perhaps even some Americans received Bulgarian "regency" and "republic" decorations. Civilians usually got the Civil Merit Order but "National Order of Alexander Nevesky" [as the "republic" restyled the St. Alexander Order] awards are also documented. Within Bulgaria, many people openly wore royal, "regency" and 1946-50 "republic" decorations and medals, especially the Military Bravery Order, alongside their "socialist/communist" medals during the communist regime. Communist era active duty soldiers wore medal groups containing both Military Bravery and Merit Orders; these appear complete with associated ribbon bars and document booklets [suggesting the groups are not modern lash-ups] on eBay several times a year. Specific legislation {i have not seen it!} supposedly approved in 2000-01 allows honorees to publicly display and wear czarist, "regency" and 1946-50 "republic" decorations. (With Simeon then serving as Prime Minister, maybe this is not too odd!) Nowadays, some wear their communist awards as well. Ask me a yes or no question and you get this kind of lengthy reply! In any case, I am happy to share this esoteric information!
Alex K Posted May 15, 2007 Author Posted May 15, 2007 Hi 922F, It is a lengthy reply but one full of useful information. I will take my time to digest the info contained, as I'm sure it will help me in the future. A number of Bulgarian awards are a particular theme of mine.The ribbon I posted is from an early Order of Civil Merit Commander class so may show different shades to those described by you for later awards.Thanks for the input.RegardsAlex
Carol I Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 I have some images from eBay to illustrate these.Same sources report [seemingly as part of a 1944 and the 1946 Decrees] a mandated replacement of Ferdinand's cypher (obverse medallion center) with the Bulgar lion--sometimes displaying a crown above the lion's head <"regency"?>, sometimes without <"republic?">--(former reverse center). At the same time, an (enameled) Bulgarian tricolor took the (czarist) reverse center lion medallion position. Why? So far, no information but maybe to distinguish "regency" and "republic" issued Military Merit Order awards.Wartime badge of the Order for Military Merit (on the ribbon of the Order for Bravery), regency issue (1944-1946).Besides altering insignia centers and changing the ribbon color, "republic" issues of Civil Merit and Military Merit Orders (plus the St. Alexander Order, merit and lifesaving etc. awards) swapped out Czarist Bulgarian suspension crowns [for insignia that had them] for an unenamelled wreath comprised of oak leaves and roses.Order for Civil Merit, republican issue (1946/7-1950)The wreath seems more oak leaves and wheat ears.
Alex K Posted May 15, 2007 Author Posted May 15, 2007 Hi Carol I, excellent photo's, thanks. I've never seen the republican version with the oakleaves.regardsAlex
922F Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 (edited) Carol I's correct, I omitted mentioning the suspension wreath wheat ears component. The rose bloom appears between the infulae where they join the wreath. Symbolism indicates 1) Bulgarian valor and forest resources (oak), 2) Bulgarian care for human values and the valley of roses (rose), and 3) state values and agricultural production (wheat). The relative size of the wreath is odd. Breast badges have larger sized wreaths than neck and sash badges. Sofia's Military Museum displays a 'proto-type' or 'individually created' suspension wreath on a Military Bravery 3rd 2nd grade badge. It adds/includes a cog wheel around the rose bloom. The cog wheel appeared to be a seperately applied piece and probably was intended to represent Bulgarian industrial production.Wheat ears and cog wheels appear in many communist symbols so their inclusion may have been a hint at things to come.More on ribbons--as illustrated above, it is important to remember that "regency" and "republic" Military Merit Order 6th thru 4th class (both with and without surmounting suspension crown or wreath) awards could be presented on the Military Bravery Order ribbon just like the czarist types. That ribbon would usually indicate an award for combat service and is especially useful in determining 6th class classification since the 6th class did not use [as far as is now known] the "combat" oak/laurel wreath superimposed on the cross. Edited May 15, 2007 by 922F
camelneck Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 On 5/15/2007 at 09:07, 922F said: More on ribbons--as illustrated above, it is important to remember that "regency" and "republic" Military Merit Order 6th thru 4th class (both with and without surmounting suspension crown or wreath) awards could be presented on the Military Bravery Order ribbon just like the czarist types. That ribbon would usually indicate an award for combat service and is especially useful in determining 6th class classification since the 6th class did not use [as far as is now known] the "combat" oak/laurel wreath superimposed on the cross. This is one of the most complete and informative threads that I have seen in some time. I wanted to send a special thanks to Carol I and 922F for all of the wonderful information that they provided, as well as Alex K for the great question. I'm also grateful for the info regarding why the bravery ribbon was sometimes used. I have a screen capture of a Bulgarian Ribbon Photo Gallery that I made from a webpage off the Internet, which showed both the Bravery Ribbon and the black-wh-yellow ribbon as valid ribbons for the Order of Military Merit during the Kingdom of Bulgaria era. There was a footnote stating that the bravery medal could only be awarded to classes 4 thru 6, but it didn't provide an explanation. I now see why I've only seen it on the 6th class silver crosses. I currently have an Officer's Class Order of Military Merit with crown, swords, original case, and ribbon rosette. I also have gold and silver Bulgarian Soldier's Crosses for Bravery. A 4th class bravery medal (or better) is on my future shopping list.
Nicolas7507 Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 http://bulgariandecorations.com/ Look here. It's the best website...
Graf Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Hi Nicolas 7507 This is a very nice site and i hope it will get better and better. Only problem for this topic is that the site cover only Royal period Orders For Camelneck will bo more cleared , if not yet to see pictures of different ribbons used with the Military Order I will try to show some examples for a better understanding The yellow/black /white ribbon is the Standard one use all through Royal period 1900 -1944 and also is use fro the lower Classes during the Regency period 1944-1946 The Bravery Order Ribbon( blue with white/silver line) was used also during those periods and also the Regency Period for Classes 4th, 5th and 6th During the Regency period for the High Classes (Grand Cross, 1st, 2nd and 3rd Classes) was used the Civil Merit ribbon(white/red/green) Therefore during the Regency Period we had the yellow.black/white ribbon, the blue with a white/silver line ribbon, and the white/red/green ribbon During the Republican period 1946-1950) only the Civil Merit Ribbon was used Note As 992F stated the Civil Merit Ribbon for the Regency and the Republican period is with slightly different shades of Red and green colours Here are some examples First pictures are only during the Royal period Prince/ King Ferdinand and King Boris III Next pictures are for the Regency period And the last pictures are from the Republican period you can see as 992F stated the central medallions of the Star is bigger then then the ones on the Cross Graf
nickstrenk Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 I would like also to enrich the topic and to add the pictures of the Order for MM of the Regency period.
new world Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 Nice Regency award! Box is incorrect - it's from WWI, Ferdinand period (pre-1918), and for award with military distinction.
new world Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, ruiz said: It's one of the most beautiful awards Agreed!
ruiz Posted December 27, 2017 Posted December 27, 2017 Is there any way to distinguish?...Maybe for the lion?
Graf Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Hi Ruiz, Your 6th Class -Silver Order is Ferdinand Emission The Lion is one of the features of the different Models/Emissions Other features are Size Enamel, Quality etc The Ferdinand Emissions the lion has a Saxon Shield The Lion is slimmer The quality is excellent especially the first Emission with so called "Glass enamel'" -Sutka F Order above Post - #19 The Boris Emissions -the Lion is smaller and fatter Post # 15 The Regency The Lion is like Boris Emission however it is inside the obverse medallion The Reverse is the three coloured Bulgarian flag. In this Emission there is also a Lion without shield The Commander Class in Post #14 and The Republican Emissions -The Lion loses the crown and the Saxon shield and is again inside the obverse medallion The Commander Class with Wreath in post #14 There are some Orders on the market that has very unusual Lions. Those Orders were made either privately or by rare makers by the order of the awarded person.Those Orders were very difficult to be put in any period only by the Lion Other features can help to determine their period Ilieff has created a a good internet site with the Bulgarian decorations if you do not have any books
ruiz Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 Thanks for your answer, Graf. I have two books of Bulgarian decorations. -Bulgarian Badges (Dietrich Riemer) -Bulgaria Orders and medals (Todor Petrov) In Petrov's book, there is not even a photo of the Military Merit Order VI class. Little information. I know the Ilieff´s page, very interesting. Best regards
new world Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 2 hours ago, ruiz said: Thanks for your answer, Graf. I have two books of Bulgarian decorations. -Bulgarian Badges (Dietrich Riemer) -Bulgaria Orders and medals (Todor Petrov) In Petrov's book, there is not even a photo of the Military Merit Order VI class. Little information. I know the Ilieff´s page, very interesting. Best regards Book by Professor Pavlov is considered the best reference on Bulgarian awards
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