House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed

[webr55]

Chance find: another one with the "1914 Schnalle" to the EK1870: OTL aD Heinrich von Massenbach

 

From "Feldpost: Wöchentliches Nachrichtenblatt für die Feldtruppen", 14.9.1918

[webr55]

Another Meyer: Hptm dR Dr. jur. Amandus Meyer

 

From "Feldpost: Wöchentliches Nachrichtenblatt für die Feldtruppen", 1.6.1918

 

 

New first name: Olt Fritz van Delden

 

From "Feldpost: Wöchentliches Nachrichtenblatt für die Feldtruppen", 8.6.1918

 

 

[webr55]

Two unrelated Müllers side by side:

 

Lt und Batterieführer Gustav Müller 

and

Lt dR Maximilian Müller (Flieger) 

 

From "Feldpost: Wöchentliches Nachrichtenblatt für die Feldtruppen", 27.4.1918

 

 

[webr55]

Mettlich is Kurt:

 

From "Feldpost: Wöchentliches Nachrichtenblatt für die Feldtruppen", 23.3.1918

 

 

[webr55]

New first name: Olt dR Bernhard Dietrich from Erfurt

 

From Erfurter Allgemeiner Anzeiger, 1.10.1918

 

 

 

Edited May 19, 2021 by webr55

[webr55]

 

First name:

Lt Curt Malchau from Erfurt

 

From Erfurter Allgemeiner Anzeiger, 4.10.1918

 

 

One of the Beckers:

 

Lt dR Erich Becker from Erfurt

 

From Erfurter Allgemeiner Anzeiger, 5.10.1918

 

 

[webr55]

New one or at least new first name: Olt Hellmuth Wichmann, from a Thuringian IR, KIA 1918 

 

From Erfurter Allgemeiner Anzeiger, 16.10.1918

 

 

[webr55]

Lt Guido Seifert was KIA 1918:

 

From Erfurter Allgemeiner Anzeiger, 30.10.1918

 

 

Notice for Olt (later SS General) Arthur Mülverstedt:

 

From Erfurter Allgemeiner Anzeiger, 31.10.1918

 

 

 

 

Award notice for Seifert was in the same newspaper, 20.8.1918:

Edited May 22, 2021 by webr55

[webr55]

This looks like a new one: Lt Fritz Richard. 
 

from Leipziger Tageblatt, Nov 1918

 

 

[Daniel Krause]

Great!!!!! Thanks!

 

Zeno Maier - no fitting Maier in our list... maybe he' s got a princely Hohenzollern??

 

Lange - thats most likely our Lange from MGSSA 36

 

the 2 Müllers remain a question... who is who??? I do not have a LtdR in a FlgAbt who might fit, so he might be one of the Artillery guys.

 

Richard - no HOH, he' s got a HEK3X.

 

Best,

Daniel

 

 

 

[Deruelle]

Hi

 

Here is photo of Leutnant Fritz Richard from IR 134

 

Christophe

 

[webr55]

Not sure if this is a new one, I don't find anyone in the list who fits, so if it's not a Princely one, should be new:

 

Bavarian Hptm Reiß from Militär-Eisenbahndirektion 2

 

From Münchner Neueste Nachrichten, 30.11.1917

 

 

[webr55]

The Franz Niedermayer in our list (with mission to Iraq/Afghanistan) is probably rather Oskar:

 

From Münchner Neueste Nachrichten, 30.6.1917

 

 

Another one for the "submitted" category: Bavarian Lt dR Hugo Gramm

 

From Münchner Neueste Nachrichten, 11.4.1918

 

 

[JohanH]

Here are my little contribution of Swedes with the Hohenzollern House Order. 

 

I don't know if these are known already or whether they received it with or without swords. 

 

Hjalmar Mauritz Lagerström 

Born 1888-01-13 in Enköping, Sweden

Died 1975-10-19 in Stockholm, Sweden

 

Albert Edvin Ekdahl

Born 1885-08-17 in Karlsborg, Sweden

Died 1967-12-06 in Solna, Sweden

 

Carl Robert Douglas

Born 1880-04-24 in Konstanz, Germany

Died 1955-08-26

 

Ernst Lars Isaac Silfversvärd

Born 1863-12-26 in Stockholm, Sweden

Died 1949-08-01 in Stockholm, Sweden

 

And finally one "with crown and swords"

 

Gustaf David Gilbert John William Hamilton

Born 1869-03-20 in Tillberga, Sweden

Died 1947-08-11 in Linköping, Sweden

[webr55]

This is either a new first name or even an entirely new one: Bavarian Olt Karl Fischer

 

 

From Münchner Neueste Nachrichten, 14.10.1918

 

 

Another submitted one: Bavarian Olt dR Walter Ewers

 

From Münchner Neueste Nachrichten, 24.05.1918

 

 

[webr55]

Here are two of the higher grades together, both with swords. We have v. Wrisberg, but I think we don't have Generalstabsarzt der Armee Prof. Dr. Otto von Schjerning yet: Commander with star with swords

 

The award is also not in his list on Wikipedia:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Schjerning

 

From Münchner Neueste Nachrichten, 17.8.1917

 

 

 

Could it be that we are missing more of the higher grades? This is General d.I. Moriz (sic!) von Lyncker, who got the Großkomtur with swords.

 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriz_von_Lyncker

 

From Münchner Neueste Nachrichten, 19.8.1917

[webr55]

 

... which leads me to the question: do we have him already?

[Daniel Krause]

Hi all,

 

many thanks!

 

Acc. the higher grades - yes, Schjerning and Hindenburg - and Moriz (indeed Moriz)  v.Lyncker are already known.

 

I am still stumbling with the 2 Bavarians above - Fischer and Reiß...

As non-Prussians are more or less 100 % in the Militärkabinett-files, and a 1917 award should be listed either in the MWB or Staatsanzeiger or Bavarian Personalmitteilungen, if these might period mistakes.

Nevertheless, I will add them with a questionmark.

 

All the best,

Daniel

[webr55]

Lt Sensburg is Max:

 

From Münchner Neueste Nachrichten, 13.9.1918

[Komtur]

On 03/06/2021 at 17:17, webr55 said:

Here are two of the higher grades together, both with swords. We have v. Wrisberg, but I think we don't have Generalstabsarzt der Armee Prof. Dr. Otto von Schjerning yet: Commander with star with swords

 

The award is also not in his list on Wikipedia:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Schjerning

 

From Münchner Neueste Nachrichten, 17.8.1917

 

 

 

Could it be that we are missing more of the higher grades? This is General d.I. Moriz (sic!) von Lyncker, who got the Großkomtur with swords.

 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriz_von_Lyncker

 

From Münchner Neueste Nachrichten, 19.8.1917

 

[webr55]

Statistics check for IR 463: they received 5 HHOX. Correct! We have exactly five in our list.

 

From Hamburger Anzeiger, 15.1.1937

 

 

[webr55]

Ok, here is a tricky case:

 

This is a HHOX notice for a

 

Lt Paul Herrmann, from an RIR, and who also got the Hanseatic Cross. 

Published in Hamburger Anzeiger, 14.6.1918

 

So the name Paul Herrmann is not uncommon. There were two future Generals with that name:

 

1) GM Paul Herrmann (1892-1974). Received HHOX 25.4.1918 as Pioneer (not Infantry) Olt (not Lt), from PiBat3. No Hanseatic Cross, according to Reichsheer RL. Can't be him, if they didn't make (several) huge mistakes. 

 

2) GM Paul Reinhold Herrmann (1898-1980), served in Bundeswehr. No HHOX and no Hanseatic Cross, according to Reichsheer RL. Can't be him either.

 

 

[webr55]

Lt Heuser is Eduard:

 

From Hamburgischer Correspondent und neue hamburgische Börsen-Halle, 27.5.1918

 

 

Lt dR Cornelssen is Fritz:

 

From Hamburgischer Correspondent und neue hamburgische Börsen-Halle, 1.7.1918

 

 

[webr55]

Lt dR Robert Carstens was KIA 1918:

 

From Hamburger Nachrichten, 16.6.1918

 

 

 

Hptm dR Clausen is Rudolf:

 

Hamburgischer Correspondent und neue hamburgische Börsen-Halle, 5.6.1918

 

 

[webr55]

One of the Lt Möllers' first initial is J. (but it is not the Jens we have already, date doesn't fit).

 

(I would guess it is the one from RIR 91.)

 

Hamburgischer Correspondent und neue hamburgische Börsen-Halle, 13.6.1918

 

 

Edited June 5, 2021 by webr55