House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed

[webr55]

Here's another Hptm Hans Braun, from Konstanz, probably not one of the Hans Braun's we already have in the list. 

Might have been dL given that he was Syndikus, so could be the H dL Braun we have without first name.

From Freiburger Zeitung, 30.7.1918

[webr55]

Chance find: Olt dR Max Besgen is in the Sachsen-Meiningen list, but without first name.

From Aachener Anzeiger, 19.11.1918

[Mattyboy]

Braun is a good find! His EK1 was announced in the Badische Landes-Zeitung dated 05 June 1916 

 

[webr55]

Another first name: Lt Fritz Mengis

And below, a Finnish Freiheitskreuz 2nd class to Divisionspfarrer Kreutz. 

From Freiburger Zeitung, 4.6.1918

[Mattyboy]

A few first names - Major Kurt Wagner (1868-1917), FAR 33 & FAR 20. Not sure where I found the death notice though.  Also Lt Hugo Wagner and Lt dR Arno Grave, who was wounded in 1916 with IR 67. From the Münsterischer Anzeiger dated 1st June 1918.  

[Daniel Krause]

Good stuff, als always!!!

Thanks a lot!

To get through all the stuff from Leutwein will take me some weeks! :-)

 

Best,

Daniel

[Mattyboy]

Another first name, and another aviator! Lt dR Georg Herrnleben, from the Naumburger Tageblatt 11 May 1918. He was killed on 31 May 1918 whilst serving as a pilot with Bosta 9. His name is sometimes spelled Herrsleben. 

[webr55]

No HHOX here, but another one for those interested in the Jewish connection: Abraham Daniel from Weissenthurm. 

From Aachener Anzeiger, 22.10.1918

[webr55]

Not clear to me if this is a new one: Maj zD Ernst Bielitz 

It does neither say "Royal" nor "with swords". Although, his Zähringen WAS with swords, even if the death notice does not say so. (Also, Herrnleben above, who definitely got the Royal HHOX, was mentioned in exactly the same way, with "Ritterkreuz des Hausordens von Hohenzollern".)

If he is the Hptm Bielitz who was from FR40, he had a Princely Hohenzollern Ehrenkreuz without swords before the war. 

From Aachener Anzeiger, 25.10.1918

Edited January 26, 2021 by webr55

[Daniel Krause]

Bielitz had a Princely Hohenzollern 3rd class with Crown and swords.

 

Best,

Daniel

[webr55]

Another submitted one: Lt Otto von Finckh. 

From Nachrichten für Stadt und Land (Oldenburg), 16.12.1918

Edited January 27, 2021 by webr55

[webr55]

On 16/12/2020 at 13:24, webr55 said:

This mentions a Hans Roth (1896-1958) with HHOX who was a pastor in Oldenburg, so different from the Generalmajor Hans Roth: 

https://www.kirche-oldenburg.de/fileadmin/Redakteure/PDF/rittner_roth_bultmann.pdf

I might have found the HHOX notice for that Hans Roth above:

From Nachrichten für Stadt und Land (Oldenburg), 18.10.1918

[webr55]

New one or new first name (we have a Lt dR Klapper in the list): 

Lt Paul Klapper from Wengoyen

From Königsberger Hartungsche Zeitung, 10.9.1918

[Mattyboy]

Hans von Lengerke (1874-1933) from FR 34. Promoted to Major in 1916. 

[webr55]

Hptm Walter Liegner from Osterode in East Prussia. 

We have a Hptm Liegener in the list, might be him (?).

From Königsberger Hartungsche Zeitung, 10.8.1918

[webr55]

We have him already, a bit more information on Lt Ernst Pöck from Marienburg:

From Königsberger Hartungsche Zeitung, 7.7.1918

[webr55]

WOW! Surprise find:

Looking further through the Königsberg newspaper... found this:

It's either a new one or a new first name. We have a Lt dL Papendick in the HHOX list. MWB notice from 4.6.1918 - though I am not sure this is him.

What I found is - a relative (ok, wife's side). Lt (should be dR) Emil Papendick from Sokaiten in East Prussia. And nobody in the family had known about it anymore.

From Königsberger Hartungsche Zeitung, 9.7.1918

Speechless. 

This was Emil Papendick (1886-1945) as Einj.Freiwilliger in GR 3, 1907: 

Back of the card:

He got commissioned as Lt dR (Landwehrbezirk Tilsit) on 22.3.1915 into LIR 33. (I remember Glenn found the date years ago.). He got wounded in 1915. In 1916, probably until the end of WW1 (though this is not certain), he was Kp.führer in IR 45X (see below).

This is him during WW1 (to the right):

Here standing, on the right: 

 

And with his sister:

 

But no photo shows his HHOX. 
 

I have this postcard to him, but it was cut unfortunately. So the regiment might be IR 451, 457 or even 456, I think. I have looked through the regimental history of IR 451 and couldn’t find him. 

Edited February 10, 2021 by webr55

[Mattyboy]

A 1916 recipient - Heinrich Röschmann from RIR 28. 

 

[Daniel Krause]

Good stuff, friends!!!

 

Thanks!

Daniel

[webr55]

First name: Hptm Johann Raestrup, Studienrat, Bataillonskdr, from Bocholt. 

From Münsterischer Anzeiger, 17.8.1918

[webr55]

Have him already, some more info on Lt dR Dr. Aloys Dieckmann from FAR 22.

From Münsterischer Anzeiger, 20.8.1918

[Deruelle]

Hi

Hauptmann Alfred Wilhelm von Rosenberg Gruszczynski received the HOH3X on 24 November 1917. In the Geile's book it is in december 1917

Christophe

[webr55]

I think this is a yet unlisted BZ3bXmE to Rittmeister Kurt Peltzer from M.Gladbach:

From Westdeutsche Landeszeitung, 10.9.1918

[Deruelle]

Hi,

Dave Danner has already put the name of Kurt Peltzer on his Baden list ?. See below

https://www.deutsche-gesellschaft-fuer-ordenskunde.de/DGOWP/links/verleihungslisten/baden/

Christophe

 

[webr55]

New first name: Lt Erich Bromm

From Westfälische Zeitung, 9.10.1918