House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed

[Daniel Krause]

Great!!!

J. Fisser got the ÖM3K as Lt in IR 78.

 

Best,

Daniel

[Mattyboy]

Hi all, 

There was a small book about IR 149 on ebay some time ago. One of the pictures shows Oblt Baske wearing the Prussian observer's badge. I don't have any more info on him, and unfortunately the seller did not reply to my requests for information. But at least I can add another Fliegertruppe officer to my Hohenzollern recipients list. 

[Soderbaum]

Hi Matty

 

Here is some info on Eitel Baske awards during WW1.

EKII 09.1914

BeoAbz 13.09.1916

EKI 26.01.1917

Hohx 03.10.1917.

VwAbz (schwarz) 29.08.1918, he was badly WIA 06.09.1914

ErAbz 02.03.1920

 

[Mattyboy]

Many thanks for the added info  

[webr55]

On 08/12/2020 at 19:29, webr55 said:

 

 

A first name: Lt Rudolf Zacharias-Langhans

Hamburgischer Correspondent und neue hamburgische Börsen-Halle, 5.10.1918

 

 

Some more info from myheritage:

 

 

 

 

 

Helmut Yström is probably this one, Police career and Senator in Bremen after WW2:

 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Yström 

Edited August 16, 2021 by webr55

[webr55]

Lt Fraedrich was from IR 155 and from Ostrowo. Olt aD as per EhrenRL.

 

From Posener Tageblatt, 8.7.1918

 

The Adressbuch Ostrowo 1913 lists a Hermann Fraedrich, Oberzollrevisor, probably his father. 

[Mattyboy]

A new first name - Lt dR Louis Schuchardt, from the Kasseler Neueste Nachrichten dated 13th Dec 1917. He was also awarded the SMK whilst with RIR 233 (Erfurter Allgemeiner Anzeiger publication dated 21st June 1915). 

[Mattyboy]

Another first name - Lt dR (or should it be Lt dL?) Waldemar John. His picture also appears in 'Der Welt Spiegel' dated 15th April 1915. 

https://www.kreisheimatverein.de/online-bibliothek/biografien-2/john/ 

 

https://dfg-viewer.de/show?tx_dlf[double]=0&tx_dlf[id]=https%3A%2F%2Fcontent.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de%2Fzefys%2FSNP27646518-19150415-0-0-0-0.xml&tx_dlf[page]=2&cHash=a7d9549f2b55e18bdbece082f8f22823 

 

[GreyC]

Hi Daniel,

here is one from my collection. Major Hans Kolbe, Kdr. Küstenwehr-Abt. Kiel. Photo from 1924. Can anybody identify the last medal, please?

Best,

GreyC

Edited September 11, 2021 by GreyC

[dedehansen]

14 hours ago, GreyC said:

Hi Daniel,

here is one from my collection. Major Hans Kolbe, Kdr. Küstenwehr-Abt. Kiel. Photo from 1924. Can anybody identify the last medal, please?

Best,

GreyC

 

Hi GreyC,

 

I think it is the swedish Wasa Orden Ritter 2. Klasse.

 

Regards

 

Andreas

[GreyC]

Thank you, Andreas, that is correct.

He was already mentioned here:

The Prussian and Glenn helped with the biographical details:

Hans Kolbe, geb. 11.5.82
Diensteintritt April 1900.
RL 1904: Lt.z.S. auf "Kaiser Wilhelm II"
RL 1907: Olt.z.S. auf Torpedoboot "S124"
RL 1909: auf Torepedoboot "Taku"
RL 1911: Kp.Lt. Marinestation der Ostsee
RL 1912: auf Torpedoboot "G192"
Februar 1915 Chef 2. Torpedo-Halbflottille
April 1917 Chef 3. Torpedo-Halbflottille bis Kriegsende
Korvettenkapitän 21.1.20 (vergleichbar mit Major im Heere)
Fregattenkapitän 1.5.25 (~ Oberstleutnant)
Kapitän z.S. 1.1.28 (~ Oberst)
Orden (gem RL 1918): RAO4, Hohenzollern Ritterkreuz m. Schw., EKI, LübH
Das DAK für 25 Jahre würde 1924 auch passen.
so: EKII, Hohenzollern, RAO, DAK, Mecklenburg, Lübeck
Der Letzte ist der schwedische Wasa-Orden (Ritterkreuz 2.Kl.), den hatte er laut RL 1914:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasaorden
Herr Kolbe hat sich auch eine Wikiseite gegönnt:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Kolbe_(Landrat)
Und er war auch im GMIC in Behandlung:
https://gmic.co.uk/topic/44238-vizeadmiral-hans-kolbe/
 

 

[GreyC]

Moin,

hier mal die Offiziere vom IR 75, die laut RG den Hohenzollern bekommen haben:

GreyC

[webr55]

Ok, Kölnische Zeitung has been put online now. Here we go:

 

New first name: Hptm Albert Otto

5.12.1918

 

New first name: Lt dR Hermann Kracht from FußAR7

27-9-1918

 

 

We have Schalk from IR 135, but Olt dR Gossler might be a new one.

12.9.1918

 

 

 

New first name: Lt Heinrich Essmann, KIA 1918

14.11.1918

 

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by webr55

[webr55]

 

First name: Lt dR Ernst Josten, RJB

30.10.1918

 

First name: Hptm Wilhelm Rath

30.10.1918

 

 

A late submitted one, might well have got it: Lt dR Heinrich Bock from FAR 33

26.10.1918

 

Yet another submitted one: Lt dR Joseph Credé

25.10.1918

 

 

 

Submitted as well, not the Kolkmann we have already: Lt dR Gustav Kolkmann from IR 151

17.10.1918

 

 

 

[webr55]

 

Three new first names: Fred Hermanns, Werner Lentz, Franz Meng 

9.10.1918

 

 

 

Submitted: Lt dR Walter Lucas

2.10.1918

 

 

First name: Olt Herbert Veltman, KIA 1918

27.8.1918

 

 

[webr55]

 

We have Petri, but Olt Max Heyden might be a new one:

27.8.1918

 

 

This shows again why we should definitely list the submitted ones: we have Lt dR Max Pulfrich (though new first name!), but he is listed here as submitted:

26.8.1918

 

May have some new info on Hptm Köhler, Beckhaus, Pulkowski:

16.8.1918

 

[webr55]

Some more info, first names for Felix Lohe, L. Kummer and Karl Hucklenbroich:

5.8.1918

 

 

[webr55]

 

Submitted: Lt dL Heinrich Ostermann (not the Ostermann in our list)

26.7.1918

 

 

 

Lt dR Hans Scher seems to be a new one: 

8.7.1918 

 

[webr55]

 

New first name: Lt dR Friedrich Schlüter, KIA 1918 (not the Hptm Friedrich Schlüter in our list)

22.6.1918 

[Dave Danner]

• "Gossler" is Goßler, Friedrich Eduard Hermann, *9.9.1887 in Magdeburg, gef. 17.7.1918 bei Tréloup an der Marne. He was a Zollsekretär in Magdeburg. For some reason, he is listed as Hans in the Verlustliste.

 

• Schalk is Karl, *29.5.18__ in Meißen, Minden, †4.6.1918 infolge Verw. am 29.5.1918.

 

• "Essmann" is Eßmann, *28.8.1883 in Düsseldorf, gef. 1.11.1918; 22.3.15 Lt.d.L.-Felda. I (Düsseldorf) im FAR 33, gef. mit d. 3./FAR 237.

 

• Ernst Josten, *28.10.1892 in Remscheid, †26.10.1918 infolge Verw. b. St. Etienne (Champagne). He was a Lt.d.R. in FAR 23, and was killed with RJB 4 (JägR 8).

 

• Wilhelm Rath was the commander of Fußartillerie-Bataillon Nr. 52. He was an Amtsrichter in Grevenbroich and an OLt.d.L.-Felda. II (Neuß), promoted to Hptm.d.L. on  30.11.14 while in the Landsturm-Fußartillerie-Bataillon of the VIII.AK. He was originally commissioned a Lt.d.R. in FAR 23, but is not in the FAR 23 Mitglieder-Verzeichnis, nor its list of verstorbene Mitglieder. He also had the LD2.

 

• There was another Rath who received the HOH3X in 1918: Rath, Friedrich Karl Hugo Richard, *4.2.1889 in Eisleben, †20.2.1960 in Bochum-Langendreier; Lt.d.R. (Burg) d. FAR 74, 3.3.17 OLt.d.R., OLt.d.R.a.D., Rittergutspächter auf Gut Neuermark, Schönhausen/Elbe-Land.

 

• The Hptm. Seebeck mentioned in the same excerpt was Hptm.d.L. II August Seebeck from IR 69. He also had the LD2.

 

• Herbert Veltman was an Oberleutnant in IR 69 and was killed with IR 389. He was born on 16.6.1893 in Aachen.

 

• Max Heyden was born in Düsseldorf and was a Kgl. Regierungsbaumeister and Vorstand of the Eisenbahn-Betriebsamt Leipzig 2. He received the HOH3X on 23.4.18 as a Lt.d.R. in RPB 33 and was promoted to OLt.d.R. on 18.5.1918.

 

• Pulfrich's award was dated 27.8.1918, but he was already dead by that point, having been wounded on 3.6.1918 and dying on 8.8.1918.

 

• Felix Lohe was a Maj.d.R. in the Luftwaffe. He was a Bankdirektor in Düsseldorf.

 

 

[webr55]

Wilhelm Buhr, Major from PB7, later Oberregierungsrat, died Köln 1941.  

 

Siegfried Krick died 1941:

 

 

New first name: Ernst Stamm, died as Major, Meldeamtsleiter, in 1941.

27.10.1941

 

 

Dr. Dr. h.c. Georg Sperlich, former Mayor of Münster, died in some accident in 1941:

25.12.1941

 

 

Edited September 19, 2021 by webr55

[webr55]

 

KL aD Aloys Böcker died 1941:

28.12.1941

 

 

 

It says "submitted", but I guess the Hptm Meller in our list is Albert:

11.5.1918

 

 

 

New first name: Lt dR Haan is Fritz, KIA:

8.5.1918

 

 

[webr55]

 

New first name: Lt Dr. Wilhelm Rünz, RIR 68, KIA 1917

22.8.1917

 

 

 

First name, not sure which one in our list this is: Hptm Oskar Schulz from an IR, KIA 1917

16.7.1917

 

[webr55]

 

Walther Schmandt died 1935. (We also had a Lt Ludwig Schmandt before.)

6.11.1935

 

 

 

 

Not sure if this is a HHOX, cannot find him in the list: Major aD Otto von La Valette St. George from UR 5, died in 1936:

30.11.1936

 

[webr55]

 

The other Ernst Krüger, Hptm dR (not the later GL Lw): 

8.3.1937

 

Lt dR Wilhelm Lindau became NSDAP Gauorganisationsleiter, plus more info. 

25.4.1937