Imperial Awards of Baden

[joe campbell]

jens-

wonderful condition, beautiful in its

simplicity, a very nice bar for you!

joe

[JensF.]

Thanks Joe. Can someone tell me more about the requirements for the ZL Merit Cross? Used to fill a gap between the Silver Merit Medal and the Karl-Friedrich Medal or more like the W?rttemberg Merit Cross with swords for "give him this one instead of nothing"?

Edited December 26, 2005 by JensF.

[Deruelle]

Hi everybody,

My wife has bought this beautiful ribbon bar for Christmas. Have a look. I'm a lucky man.

I wish everybody an happy new year

Regards

Christophe

[Deruelle]

the reverse

Christophe

[kunsho]

...I found also a Baden 70er medalbar somewhere in my cabinet..

Best Regards

Matthias

[joe campbell]

an eye-popping thread!

the last three entries are beautiful.

joe

[Stogieman]

I agree with Joe, these last few additions from both sides of the pond have been fantastic! Some very rare pieces.......

[kunsho]

...may I post this one additionally ? One of the very rare silver gilt ones.

Matthias

Edited December 30, 2005 by kunsho

[kunsho]

...one more:

Order of the Zaehringer Lion, knight 2nd class, without swords, number of awards 3544 (according to Volle)

[Stogieman]

Greetings Matthias! Wonderful!

[saschaw]

To re-animate this nice, "litte" thread.

Heres another wee Baden one for you

Just a long service mounted on its own.....

It's still missing a single mount "Spangenst?ck" of the old pre 1913 long service award! It's the first one I've ever seen, so I bought it (on Ebay.de) - although it is really uuuugly.

Avers:

[saschaw]

And its reverse:

[Guest Rick Research]

THAT is quite weird indeed!!!!

[joemiller]

Here is an odd little medal bar that I got several years ago. The arrangement is very odd and the only order I can see is that it goes from large to small. Other than that it is entirely illogical. Was this guy from Saxe-Meiningen and just put the Baden medals on as he received them (because the Small Gold is misplaced)? All in all an odd duck.

[Ulsterman]

Baden NCO Frack bar?

[Tom Y]

This just arrived yesterday.

Apparently he already had his LS before he got the Field Service, so he just took off the gong and slapped a couple new ribbons on.

[saschaw]

Does someone know why my father bought this one this morning on Ebay.de?

I know it ...

[Wild Card]

Hi Saschaw,

Two things strike me about this bar:

1. I would guess that the medal in the center position is incorrect. In it?s place should be something related to the Military Karl-Friedrich Order - a knight?s badge maybe?

2. The Zahringer Lion badge seen here is what appears to be a very nicely done jeweler's copy. Nothing wrong with that - actually very rare in it?s own right.

Did I find the reason why your father bought it?

Wild Card

[saschaw]

Thanks Wild Card, you hit the point - with #1. It is - at least in my and my father's opinion - a bar for a Karl Friedrich knight. One out of 288 in World War I. A very simple combination, no chance to identify. Presumably just one of those Leutnants or Leutnants der Reserve thet were awarded a "Karl Friedrich" in 1918. Actually, the first Karl Friedrich medal bar I've seen with no chance to ID ...

#2 is wrong, this is just a crappy fake from "G?de", worth approx. US $10.-. I've never seen a single sided jeweler's copy of a Z?hringer - by now.

[Stogieman]

.. but at that point... I would suspect the actual construction of the bar which could be a fake in its' entirety...

[saschaw]

.. but at that point... I would suspect the actual construction of the bar which could be a fake in its' entirety...

But I do not know why it should be fake?

The seller's an antique seller who's in business for at least thirty years. He doesn't matter anything, even not anymore the money at all - he has enough. I'd guess he bought the bar many years ago (for presumably nothing) and hang the decorations on it to sell it ...

[Nicolas7507]

On 22/11/2005 at 21:51, HeikoGrusdat said:

nice group over many years and two wars...

 

Heiko

Exceptional grouping! Do you have a name for these bars? I think I have a pretty similar bar in my collection, which once belonged to the grouping.

[graham]

I would appreciate any comments on this Order of Berthold the First Knights Cross with swords:

 

Closer....

[Deruelle]

Hi Graham

Nice cross. If my memory is ok, there is only 22 crosses awarded during WW1. A super rare knight cross. Congrats

One question, is your cross in gold ? It seems that the swords were added during the war (bronze ?). the color of the swords is different from the cross itself.

Is there an hallmark ? I remember that Doudlee is the maker of this cross and a D was written in the bottom of the cross.

Christophe

[graham]

Thanks Christophe,

It is gold with no hallmark.