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    Posted

    How do you like it?

    Fantastic and rare, especially the second medal (golden cross of merit of the Zähringer Lion)

    Price about 5000 e.

    Misiu

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    Posted

    unfortunately no close-ups; but description in German:

    15 awards:

    Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse, 1870, mit silberner Blattspange 25 Jahre

    goldenes Kriegsverdienstkreuz vom Zähringer Löwen

    kleine goldene Friedrich-Verdienstmedaille

    Karl-Friedrich-Medaille "dem Tapferen Roth"

    Friedrich I. große silberne Verdienstmedaille mit Gefechtsspangen

    Badische Verdienstmedaille Leopold, zwei Gefechtsspangen 1870/1871

    Jubiläumsmedaille Friedrich von Baden

    Jubiläumsabzeichen

    Zentenar-Medaille

    Medaille des Roten Adler

    silbernem Verdienstkreuz Sachsen

    silbernes Verdienstmedaille Sachsen

    silbernes Verdienstkreuz

    norwegische goldene Medaille

    persische goldene Medaille.

    Posted

    5000 is a lot of money to pay without some decent photographs. Also, you will need to post a photograph of the back.

    Thank you.

    Posted

    I do not want to sell it...wrong section (I guess)

    Thank you...just discussion...

    Greetings also from Marge Simpson :speechless1:

    5000 is a lot of money to pay without some decent photographs. Also, you will need to post a photograph of the back.

    Thank you.

    Posted

    I do not want to sell it...wrong section (I guess)

    Thank you...just discussion...

    Greetings also from Marge Simpson :speechless1:

    Doh! Sorry about the misunderstanding on my behalf!

    Posted (edited)

    How do you like it?

    Fantastic and rare, especially the second medal (golden cross of merit of the Zähringer Lion)

    Price about 5000 e.

    Misiu

    Hello Misiu:

    Thank you for discussing this fantastic group. This group probably belonged to Kanonier Joseph Roth of a FAR who was awarded the MKFVM on March 4, 1871. I do not think that the €5.000 price is too out of line. If you add-up the values of the original awards and consider the fact that the recipient is known, in auction, there would be strong bidding for this group and this price would probably be reached without much problem. From what I see, the bar is 100% original (even with the low-resolution photo and without seeing the reverse).

    Best regards,

    "SPM"

    ps: By the way, the rarest and most desirable award on this bar is not the OZL Merit Cross, it is the Military Karl Friedrich Order Merit Medal.

    Edited by Schießplatzmeister
    Posted (edited)

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    This group probably belonged to Kanonier Joseph Roth of a FAR who was awarded the MKFVM on March 4, 1871.

    Best regards,

    "SPM"

    ps: By the way, the rarest and most desirable award on this bar is not the OZL Merit Cross, it is the Military Karl Friedrich Order Merit Medal.

    I think the bar belonged to Johann Peter Röth

    During the Franco-Prussian War Röth served as a Lazarettgehilfe in 6th coy 5. Badisches Infanterieregiment Nr. 113. He was awarded the KFMVM on February 15, 1871 and the Iron Cross II class on March 6, 1871.

    Edited by Naxos
    Posted

    I think the bar belonged to Johann Peter Röth

    During the Franco-Prussian War Röth served as a Lazarettgehilfe in 3rd coy 5. Badisches Infanterieregiment Nr. 113. He was awarded the KFMVM on February 15, 1871 and the Iron Cross II class on March 6, 1871.

    Hello Naxos:

    I missed this recipient as I didn't see him listed in the Zelosko series.

    Best regards,

    "SPM"

    Posted (edited)

    Correction, Johann Peter Röth served in the 6th coy of the 5th Baden Infantry Regiment.

    Hello SPM, I could not find the Kanonier Roth as an Iron Cross II recipient for 1871.

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    According to the Regimental History Johann Peter Röth was awarded the CFMVM for his bravery shown on December 3rd, 1870 at the battle of Vendenesse near Dijon.

    Edited by Naxos
    Posted

    Correction, Johann Peter Röth served in the 6th coy of the 5th Baden Infantry Regiment.

    Hello SPM, I could not find the Kanonier Roth as an Iron Cross II recipient for 1871.

    post-1062-026449100 1290806552_thumb.jpg

    According to the Regimental History Johann Peter Röth was awarded the CFMVM for his bravery shown on December 3rd, 1870 at the battle of Vendenesse near Dijon.

    Hello Naxos:

    I believe that you are 100% correct! I was looking at the name as "Roth" as the only possibility as that was what was listed by Misiu. I did not even consider Johann Peter Röth who IS listed in the Zelosko series. Johann Peter Röth makes perfect sense.

    Best regards,

    "SPM"

    Posted

    Thanx for all the answers to this Medal Bar.

    If sb is deeply interested in it - it is not the sales forum here - but...I am willing to let it flow away...pls pm if closers pics are needed as well as if the medal bar should find a new home. thanx.

    Posted

    If sb is deeply interested in it - it is not the sales forum here - but...I am willing to let it flow away...pls pm if closers pics are needed as well as if the medal bar should find a new home. thanx.

    It will find a new home, for sure. Posibly here. ;)

    I hope I'm missreading when I understand you are offering something that is not in your estate...

    Posted

    yeah, sorry. I did not want to reveal that I am a seer.

    this email is supposed to be seen / read tomorrow about 19:15 pm.

    Posted

    ps: for everybody who is interested in this auction piece which I will win tomorrow:

    www.peege.de

    ==> why not to inform other collectors about next auction?

    ps ps: is there a section where we could start such a thread??

    Posted

    ps: for everybody who is interested in this auction piece which I will win tomorrow:

    www.peege.de

    ==> why not to inform other collectors about next auction?

    ps ps: is there a section where we could start such a thread??

    You are a bold gentleman Misiu. Your notification of the auktion is very chivalrous and somewhat challenging on your part. Others may keep their own council as to their plans, but I will at least say for myself that I will not bid against you for this outstanding medal bar.

    Good Luck.

    PS: If (when) you win the bar please provide some close-up photos. I think that we all would like to get a good look at this one. Thank you.

    Posted

    Someone knows how it ended? My totally incapable father didn't manage to pass me the phone when he was outbid...

    :banger: :banger: :banger:

    Posted (edited)

    I bid until 4'000 and should have bid 4400 to continue... I don't know the the final price, though. I guess it went for well over 5000 including commission.

    C

    Edited by Claudio
    Posted

    The results say 8,000! if I'm reading it correctly.

    Yes, quite correct. And I think the buyer premium is 20%. If so, that would mean the winner paid 9,600E.

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