Claudius Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 He got the Hamburger and worn it on the medal bar during the war. Later on when he got the Ehrenkreuz he changed it with the Hanseatenkreuz. I have a picture of him wearing this medal bar befor the cross was chaged. Same bar. The Ehrenkreuz was more important for him.Regards Alex That is interesting. Thanks for the explanation.
ccj Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 He got the Hamburger and worn it on the medal bar during the war. Later on when he got the Ehrenkreuz he changed it with the Hanseatenkreuz. I have a picture of him wearing this medal bar befor the cross was chaged. Same bar. The Ehrenkreuz was more important for him. Regards Alex that's interesting for sure.
jaba1914 Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Here a picture of him still wearing the hanseatic cross on the bar.RegardsAlex Edited September 23, 2015 by jaba1914
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 23, 2015 Author Posted September 23, 2015 Maybe in the 30s the Ehrenkreuz was Pflicht or compulsory and not having the time/Money/desire to go through getting a whole new bar he just exchanged the two for peace and quiet? At the local NSFK or SA meeting the missing Ehrenkreuz would be noted, but states awards less so?
ccj Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 That makes since but I would have cast out an Ottoman medal
Claudius Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Here a picture of him still wearing the hanseatic cross on the bar.RegardsAlex
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 23, 2015 Author Posted September 23, 2015 That makes since but I would have cast out an Ottoman medal Hi, but the Ehrenkreuz cant be on the extreme right of the bar... it would have to have been in the Hansacross place I think.
jaba1914 Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 On the place of the hamburger cross it would be wrong. The Oldenburger pushed on the second position and than the FEK.RegardsAlex
Komtur Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Obermusikmeister Theodor Scheer, Westfälisches Jägerbataillon Nr. 7, Bückeburg
dedehansen Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Obermusikmeister Theodor Scheer, Westfälisches Jägerbataillon Nr. 7, Bückeburg I like these Musikmeister bars Kind regardsAndreas
ccj Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Wow, that's a lot of medals for an NCO isn't it?
ccj Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Hi ccj,I would remove the MKFO medal and replace a silberne Verdienstmedaille.RegardsAndreaswhy is that? Because a MKFO medals winner would have a silver merit also?
ixhs Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) One of my favourites: Vizefeldwebel Johann Georg Gerlinger, RIR 122 Heilbronn Highest württemberg bravery award for EM and NCO - the golden MMM. He got it on the western front. I have also his Feldspange and his Wehrpass. The MMM is stamped 333. His brother also got the golden MMM. Edited November 11, 2015 by ixhs
Claudius Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 38 minutes ago, ixhs said: One of my favourites: Vizefeldwebel Johann Georg Gerlinger, RIR 122 Heilbronn Highest württemberg bravery award for EM and NCO - the golden MMM. He got it on the western front. I have also his Feldspange and his Wehrpass. The MMM is stamped 333. His brother also got the golden MMM. Wow. Nice! Is the WGMMM posted in his WP? Did you get it directly from the family? Do you know for what action he received it? His brother?
ixhs Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) I got it from his relatives. They live in the Westphalen region. I got it over a auction house in 2014. He was born in Northern Württemberg. Yes all of his awards were listed in his Wehrpass He got the medal on 21.12.1917 for Tapferkeit vor dem Feinde. (9./122) And here we have another württemberg superman - medic sarge Johann Jakob Bantel I got this litte group from a collector`s friend in Baden. He got his golden MMM in 1916 as he rescued 4 wounded soldiers in heavy british fire on the western front. Unfortunately his awards were gone in all over that years. So i added a new bar with his awards on it. The golden MMM is a private purchased version made of gilded bronce. They were made in the Weimar era (Zweitstück). This bar has the rare golden oakleafes on it. Edited November 11, 2015 by ixhs
IR 134 Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Richard Walter Kühn from IR 104. (source: hermann Historica Archiv) Edited November 13, 2015 by IR 134
dedehansen Posted February 14, 2016 Posted February 14, 2016 On 3.9.2015 at 08:45, Wild Card said: Gentlemen, Some really beautiful bars shown here. Thank you all for sharing. Here is my candidate. The awards to Feldwebel Hermann Stude of the 4th Guards Grenadier Regt. - Hi Wild Card, would you please be so kind to post the number from the Georgskreuz?! Kind regards Andreas
ccj Posted February 14, 2016 Posted February 14, 2016 On November 13, 2015 at 23:18, IR 134 said: Richard Walter Kühn from IR 104. (source: hermann Historica Archiv) Wow, I could most certainly have that in my collection and be happy happy happy. Amazing and rare
ixhs Posted February 14, 2016 Posted February 14, 2016 I understand - but i hope, that the piece is still hiding somewhere in Germany. That piece belongs to the history of my country!
Wild Card Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 Greetings Andreas! The number on Feldwebel Hermann Stude’s Georgskreuz is 29841. Thanks for asking, I am surprised that no one asked sooner. Best wishes, Wild Card
dedehansen Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 5 hours ago, Wild Card said: Greetings Andreas! The number on Feldwebel Hermann Stude’s Georgskreuz is 29841. Thanks for asking, I am surprised that no one asked sooner. Best wishes, Wild Card Thanks Wild Card for the quick reply, very appreciated. I have noticed that there is a Militärehrenzeichen 2nd class on the bar, but the ribbon is for the allgemeines Ehrenzeichen, is there an explanation for this? Kind regards Andreas
Wild Card Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 Your observation is correct. I am afraid that only the person who can explain this is the one who assembled it. An obvious explanation, in cases like this, would be that the proper ribbon was not available; but we know that this is not the case because, if I am not mistaken, the iron cross is mounted on that proper ribbon. So, I guess that we will never know. Best wishes, Wild Card
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